The Green Party gained 20+% of the vote. 30+% among young people.
I can't stop thinking about that we need something radically new in the current century and that old-school right-wing politics isn't enough. What do these populist parties even offer? Just get rid of all immigrants and all will be fine? Then we will continue our current economic policies, our current social policies? That it?
I agree with the Left that a lot of the Populism is just talk to get populist support to gain power. The old Grachian brother and Tribune of the Plebs move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLNvcTK6DTU
Farage for example is worshipped by many people, despite cucking the BNP, preventing UKIP from developing to something more than just an Anti-EU party and prevented them from becoming more nationalist.
If we can't get rid of refugees and immigrants, because you just get turned from wherever you are on the political spectrum to ultra far right, why not build camp-cities for them in our country and try to extract as much value from them as possible? They are coming here on their own. Why not use them as an economic ressource and exploit it as much as possible for the benefit of us?
And radically invest in Education, public transport, development of Green Spaces, National Parks. Try to become energy independet from fossil fuels ASAP.
And the EU. You know, old school nationalism and trying to take Prussia back won't work. The EU is a good way to fullfill our geopoltiical ambitions. We just need to adjust it in a better direction.
Why does Latvia and Estonia need to be independent? They are just going to be influenced by Russia, the US or China. Why not have a European Empire? I agree with Richard Spencer. Being anti EU is too short-sighted.
I am seriously thinking about these issues and I think that something like this might be much more succesful, than bruteforcing deporation of refugees and migrants, which will just get you hated. I think many Lefties would support that.
Can you talk me out of that?
OP - https://8ch.net/pol/res/13323687.html
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No, I mean populism isn't "old school right wing politics", hence I was querrying what EXACTLY you are referring to. Please be specific.
Its amazing stuff!
So you simultaneously want post-industrialization AND large swathes of old-growth forest?
You don't see the likelihood of any… Conflict, any contradiction, therein?
… Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there HAS to be, mind you, but…
No I'm not, I'm pointing out that you're talking about national parks while being demographically displaced. IOW: You're missing the rape squads for the trees.
How did the young people vote with regards to the NSDAP during their rise to prominence?
So you want to advance to the stars while engaging power-generation methodologies that are innately insufficient for our needs - find me someone acknowledging anthropic climate change as a potential hazard (if not presently extant; at least, not in the ways most-commonly addressed) and 'pro environment' stances that ALSO embrace nuclear power, because I'd like to meet one besides myself - while talking about the environment and importing millions of migrants via petrol-based platforms thereby negating any and all environmental effect?
And do you have evidence that such is ACTUALLY why they didn't support those parties, as opposed to, ya know, the German youth being AGGRESSIVELY propagandized to and subject to literally decades of post-deNazificiation social engineering? If so, please provide it - I'm not accusing you of NOT having it, I'm asking to see it for myself.
The EU is not a good thing, period. A thing in that vein developed after the decline of such an incredibly-flawed and utterly corrupted mechanism? Maybe. But the EU? Nah. That's like saying the US can be saved. Nonsense.
Oh?
Well, first off, you're current on /pol/, not necessarily seeing how a /pol/ack candidate - lel - would approach narrative and discussion, so thats a bit disingenuous on your behalf.
Second, face it man - if you can't deal with (the "kill" bit is a bit of an exaggeration IMHO) these problems, you're not actually making any headway. And if you try to get in power and THEN deal with these problems, your support will evaporate very quickly, because the enemy controls the press, and so, while their pawns might be protected, yours will not. Hence, if you try to sell people one thing and pursue another once in power, you will be fucked.
And really, you have to face it man: Point 3, you HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE KIKES AND MUDMEN INVADERS. If you don't, NONE OF THE 'GREEN' SHIT WILL MATTER IN 20 YEARS, because you will have been demographically displaced and the people coming in behind DO NOT GIVE A SHIT about the environment. These people voting 'Green' and shit, they're being fed pleasant lies, just like the folks voting for "populists" running on the platform of nothing more than "REMOVE MUDMEN AND THEN KEEP BEING SHITTY PHILOSOPHICALLY".
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Pavle Mocilac, PhD, University of Manchester
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What're his views on mass immigration and how is he received (ie, as an exceptional case, yay or nay; and specifically how does the left treat him)?