The Green Party gained 20+% of the vote. 30+% among young people.
I can't stop thinking about that we need something radically new in the current century and that old-school right-wing politics isn't enough. What do these populist parties even offer? Just get rid of all immigrants and all will be fine? Then we will continue our current economic policies, our current social policies? That it?
I agree with the Left that a lot of the Populism is just talk to get populist support to gain power. The old Grachian brother and Tribune of the Plebs move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLNvcTK6DTU
Farage for example is worshipped by many people, despite cucking the BNP, preventing UKIP from developing to something more than just an Anti-EU party and prevented them from becoming more nationalist.
If we can't get rid of refugees and immigrants, because you just get turned from wherever you are on the political spectrum to ultra far right, why not build camp-cities for them in our country and try to extract as much value from them as possible? They are coming here on their own. Why not use them as an economic ressource and exploit it as much as possible for the benefit of us?
And radically invest in Education, public transport, development of Green Spaces, National Parks. Try to become energy independet from fossil fuels ASAP.
And the EU. You know, old school nationalism and trying to take Prussia back won't work. The EU is a good way to fullfill our geopoltiical ambitions. We just need to adjust it in a better direction.
Why does Latvia and Estonia need to be independent? They are just going to be influenced by Russia, the US or China. Why not have a European Empire? I agree with Richard Spencer. Being anti EU is too short-sighted.
I am seriously thinking about these issues and I think that something like this might be much more succesful, than bruteforcing deporation of refugees and migrants, which will just get you hated. I think many Lefties would support that.
Can you talk me out of that?
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[–] 18848181? ago
so you want to create your very own palestine inside your nation? That makes no sense unless these cities are outside of your borders which wont work in any way that I can see.
Call it a staging or welcome city only by name and then people can nicely outstay their welcome and every leftist will understand if you phrase it all the right way for their teletubby brains to understand. If you already have giant cities with people who get paid to live there (since immigrants dont work or adapt) what's the point? You already lost then.
[–] 18848201? ago
Well, they should be economical. If I was the leader of this new Party and got control of my country, I'd try to extract as much value from them as possible.
Imagine if Africans came to the US and voluntarily enslaved themselves.
>>13324047
No, I don't. Do you? Does all of Germany have to be a forest or be out of concrete?
"You can't have X, because of muslims."
I added this video to my watch later list a few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9AGx2q_F_0
Haven't watched it yet.
I have no idea and I want to kill myself. We won't ever achieve anything here with just right-wing populism.
A /pol/ candidate would be fucking retarded, because he had to speak "honestly" about the j question, because he couldn't bear it to have a single anon call him a Zionist. Patrick Little was your /pol/ candidate.
Well maybe we need to become a minority to deal with them. It sure as fuck doesn't bother people right now.
If the economy ever collapses, they will all move somewhere else anyway.
Dunno, but I am ready to just abandon everything, delete all bookmarks of /pol/ and other forums, delete my political discord, because of this shit. I can't bear this any longer. This constant hoping that "maybe Gen Z will be based", "maybe we can have a right-wing revolution too in Germany at least for the people heavily browsing the Internet and then only get 6% for young people.
Fuck all of this. Why even bother being a moral conservative, if you'd get attacked by other Right-Wingers for having a little bit of fun wtih a woman and get called a Sexist for wanting to treat women as more than sexual objects?
And the insane Incel Baggage we have to carry on our bags.
And despite all this we are just a tiny minority with no electoral power.
Why is it that right-wing behavior like monogamy, being a provider, etc is still valued so highly, but talking about it is so demonized?
This all makes me sick to my stomach.
EXACTLY. We don't do anything!
[–] 18848660? ago
>>13324153
With what money? And why do you assume they'll be accepted?
You think Whitey will get the same treatment as the muds? Hah, guess again my man.
Well thats unfortunate. Maybe look into it and get back to us? That would be more constructive than simply stewing in desapir making comments like
ya know?
You're going to have to my man. This is YOUR STRUGGLE.
Maybe Gen Z WILL be based… When they're a bit older.
What does that even mean? I've never seen that. If you're doing degenerate shit and trying to say its 'just fun', well… You kinda walked into that one, didn't ya?
That's something that might actually happen.
I'm starting to this is a LARP again, or perhaps you've just got some personal issues you need to work out.
Yup. Just like the NSDAP in 1928, right?
Demonized by (((whom))), exactly? The people who want to destroy you?
Yeah man, why WOULD they do that?
It should.
There is nothing to be done at this time. I know that's not what you want to hear, but its the truth.
I say again:
The cycle of man:
<You are here
Its going to get worse before it gets better. You need to come to terms with that. If you can't, if you can't handle the struggle, then you do have the choice of walking away.
But thats a choice you have to make for yourself, and no amount of social signaling in despair will take that burden from your shoulders and yours alone.
[–] 18848659? ago
Yes, extremely so.
It can't be both.
FTFY, and yes. That's simply a fact. You can't have X, because demographic displacement.
Looks interesting, but I'm not going to devote 20 minutes right now, I'm sure you understand.
Point being, if you look at the context of that video, and of coverage of that guy, you'll see that he is held up as an exception case, because he, like myself, are a rarity in these contexts.
I don't suppose you would know anything about his stances BEYOND this context? That's really the important bit, because the point I was making mentioning such was that most "Green" parties and shit, let alone outright leftist orgs, don't espouse this position and attack this position.
Doing a brief scrape on his name and certain keywords, I already found instances of him being attacked for his commentary on "the death of environmentalism" and pro-nuclear stance by people shilling for mudmen invaders and big corporate, most of them leftist.
Then that's not very helpful, is it?
Why? Wait, what am I saying? I know why. But you can't, because like dawn light in black sown, all darkness will be overthrown. I know its hard to believe now, but its the truth.
Do… Do you still think I'm DEFENDING "right-wing" populism? I want you to take a moment and go back to reading what I've said and see if you still think thats the case.
Yes, but you aren't listening to my whole narrative, which is that you HAVE TO DO THAT, and its a matter of context as to whether or not it will work. Why did it work for Hitler and not Patrick Little? Think on that and get back to me.
I don't think that's the case.
I think it does, given the scene in the general European elections. It may not be bothering THE YOUTH, but, I've already talked about why thats not a good metric.
[–] 18848651? ago
Except this is literally true you subversive shill.
Muslims don't care about the environment, their IQs are too low.
Survival of the environment is secondary to survival of our race, if our race does not survive the environment won't either.