The Green Party gained 20+% of the vote. 30+% among young people.
I can't stop thinking about that we need something radically new in the current century and that old-school right-wing politics isn't enough. What do these populist parties even offer? Just get rid of all immigrants and all will be fine? Then we will continue our current economic policies, our current social policies? That it?
I agree with the Left that a lot of the Populism is just talk to get populist support to gain power. The old Grachian brother and Tribune of the Plebs move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLNvcTK6DTU
Farage for example is worshipped by many people, despite cucking the BNP, preventing UKIP from developing to something more than just an Anti-EU party and prevented them from becoming more nationalist.
If we can't get rid of refugees and immigrants, because you just get turned from wherever you are on the political spectrum to ultra far right, why not build camp-cities for them in our country and try to extract as much value from them as possible? They are coming here on their own. Why not use them as an economic ressource and exploit it as much as possible for the benefit of us?
And radically invest in Education, public transport, development of Green Spaces, National Parks. Try to become energy independet from fossil fuels ASAP.
And the EU. You know, old school nationalism and trying to take Prussia back won't work. The EU is a good way to fullfill our geopoltiical ambitions. We just need to adjust it in a better direction.
Why does Latvia and Estonia need to be independent? They are just going to be influenced by Russia, the US or China. Why not have a European Empire? I agree with Richard Spencer. Being anti EU is too short-sighted.
I am seriously thinking about these issues and I think that something like this might be much more succesful, than bruteforcing deporation of refugees and migrants, which will just get you hated. I think many Lefties would support that.
Can you talk me out of that?
OP - https://8ch.net/pol/res/13323687.html
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[–] 18847518? ago
Great powers sure, run from israel. Imagine being so full of soy as your self, you are the typical normie that consumed the shit fed to you. You have exposed your self with this little rant as well, just LOOK at that reddit garbage. Well at least now you know, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK. Also, I could give a fuck less about politics in Germany, good luck.
[–] 18848160? ago
God dammit, anon. I only consume alternative right media, so I am in an echo chamber, you could say, but I can still deal with people disagreeing with me, instead of sperging out like you.
Holy shit.
>>13323944
Thank you, anon. You just proved my proposal even more right.
What even happened since the election? You think this token is "based right-wing populism"? It's nothing. It's shit.
irrelevant country with a corrupted, establshed party
Where is the populist party there?
Basic Bitch Conservatism lmao
>>13323946
I am not new.
>>13323950
This thread is getting worse and worse.
>>13323960
You mean the populism of the types of the "based countries" that anon was telling me about? This is what I should approve of?
look above your post
Bringing back the old forests.
And you are being fooled that we'd live in a paradise, if we deported all immigrants tomorrow.
Why didn't young people vote for the AfD? Because they denied climate change and weren't pro enviroment enough.
Natural geopolitics would inevitably lead to Poland being added to Germany's sphere of influence. The EU is just an expression of that.
And that's another thing. You always lalk about something negative. Can't talk about any issue, because first "we have to kill the kikes and all spics and niggers".
Dude. I am "redpilled about the JQ" you could say. But what does that matter, if only 6% of young people vote for the AfD? This was kinda an epiphany for me.
WHAT WE ARE DOING DOESN'T WORK.
>>13323979
they become economically left-wing and dont want to hear stuff about "pulling yoursel up by your bootstraps"
I am not talking about that, because you people would never vote for someone that accidently just said one good thing about Israel, even though he just praised their border policy as an objectically good way to defend the border.
Or a single photo with the wife of a political is enough to distrust them.
[–] 18853549? ago
OP The fact that you actually deluded yourself in the first place that democracy corrupt and controlled from the top down would ever have a chance of for a true Nationalist (which you are not, and clearly a kiked up globalist POS shill) party to win "democratically" speaks volumes for your feigned "epiphany". And if only you come to this realisation but are so shared that you see no hope only exposes your abject cuckoldry to the enemy, your pathetic weakness.
We will never win at the polls, we never stood a a chance once our kith and kin were so undermined from within, our own system used against us.
Exploiting the other races within our own lands?! Have you learned nothing from slavery (Jewish controlled no less)? The enslaved are eventually emancipated and naturally being a parasite within eat the host from within, emboldened destroy the native population.
You are scum, and a typical weak libtard shill, glowing brightly, emanating bullshit like radioactive waste in a damn cloud chamber.
Revolution is the only solution! The immigrants were never our target, the traitor state, all traitors, and the foreign kike enemy within.
The day of the rope comes quickly. The coming conflagration will make the actions of the IRA childsplay in comparison.
Oh, and FYI, one can be involved in elections but only ever for our people, never compromising on our survival in any way shape or form. Elections are only for publicity and as a political front, nothing more. The IRA new this well, but forgot quickly.
The new social order is coming, and it won't be the Greens of that you can be assured. Germany's cuckoldry is but a symptom of their occupation since the 2nd of the Brother Wars. Today's Germany is likened unto the Weimar Republic, and just like the Weimar republic it will burn and be reborn the flames of Nationalist absolution.
Now crawl back to that libtard bubble safe space you came from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISWVQk3MJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFVZU2YwwJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3w6c7RUbUs
[–] 18848191? ago
>>13324047
>>13324048
Good.
Good.
That's not my point though. You give them economic hardship and they are more willing to see the cause of it, because now its making them personally and in a direct fashion UNCOMFORTABLE.
That's why it happened in Germany with the NSDAP by all accounts!
Why did people SUDDENLY support calling out the jews while embracing a pseudo-leftist (more Third Position really, taking the best from right and left) economic position and a more 'conservative' social position?
It was the economic hardships they were enduring, and the (((causes))) of that, which are the same (((causes))) liable to be behind future hardship in such economic vein, no?
Pic related, as it were.
Yeah, you kind of are, but I understand what you mean, and I didn't mean it as an attack: But what you're saying IS optics-cucking, you want to try to alter your optical presentation to appeal to a different swathe, to take on a different aesthetic suggestive of a new paradigm or approach.
I get that - BUT, what that amounts to, from what I'm seeing, is an alteration of optics such as to avoid aesthetic or context you believe to be harmful to overall goals… You are, in other words, optics cucking.
If it was accidentally? Maybe.
If not, no. I would never vote for someone who said something positive about Israel.
The reasoning behind that being, I've extensive experience with jews in modern and historical contexts, specifically zionists, and all indications that I've seen suggest that you cannot casually get into bed with the zionists - they won't allow that. If they deem you unviable, they will attack you sufficiently to drive you out of a pro-zionist position. If they deem you viable, they will welcome you into bed… And start filming what you do in that bed, the most perverse things you do, the most perverse things they OFFER YOU, and then they will use that against you. Every time, that appears to be how these people roll… So no, I'm not inclined to support someone saying nice things about israel, because it suggests either they don't realize this paradigm is in effect (or arrogantly think they can avoid it where so many others have not), or this paradigm already IS in effect upon them, and they are subverted and ready to betray at the most integral moment.
That pretty much never happens that I've seen. Show me an example on a case-by-base basis, but I can't recall a single time that I saw someone talking about israel's border policy in genuinely objective terms regarding the efficacy, without them in some way being compromised on the issue of zionism.
Please elaborate. I'm not familiar with this meme.
[–] 18848186? ago
>>13324047
Okay then, then what I'm saying should make a great deal of sense to you.
If I had voted when I was 'young' (how is 'young' being defined here, btw?), I'd have voted Democrat in all likelihood. By the time I was 30, that had all changed. That's the story for a great many people, and the difficulty of letting young people vote: They're fucking stupid and short-sighted and, especially in Europe, HEAVILY propagandized to, such that most won't come to their sense until they're well out of university. My guess would be that the NSDAP wouldn't have done too well with the 'young' in some of their early-stage attempts either. Do you have evidence of the contrary? Genuinely interested to learn more about this scenario.
So was reading Origin of the Species at 29 for me.
Who is 'we', nigger?
'We' aren't doing ANYTHING.
If you think, say, AfD, is demonstrable of /pol/? Get real! 'We' do not presently have a political platform, not even the potential for one, because we represent direct threat to (((the parasite))), and so, until we have conditions such that we can deal with the parasite, you won't make much headway. Thankfully, as usually happens, the consequences of (((the parasite)))'s action are being felt in a big way, and it will get worse in time. Just like it did during the Weimar.
I'd really like some of those evidentiary questions asked above to be answered, and I hope you won't take that as an attack.
Checking out the second bit next.
[–] 18848183? ago
No, I mean populism isn't "old school right wing politics", hence I was querrying what EXACTLY you are referring to. Please be specific.
Its amazing stuff!
So you simultaneously want post-industrialization AND large swathes of old-growth forest?
You don't see the likelihood of any… Conflict, any contradiction, therein?
… Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there HAS to be, mind you, but…
No I'm not, I'm pointing out that you're talking about national parks while being demographically displaced. IOW: You're missing the rape squads for the trees.
How did the young people vote with regards to the NSDAP during their rise to prominence?
So you want to advance to the stars while engaging power-generation methodologies that are innately insufficient for our needs - find me someone acknowledging anthropic climate change as a potential hazard (if not presently extant; at least, not in the ways most-commonly addressed) and 'pro environment' stances that ALSO embrace nuclear power, because I'd like to meet one besides myself - while talking about the environment and importing millions of migrants via petrol-based platforms thereby negating any and all environmental effect?
And do you have evidence that such is ACTUALLY why they didn't support those parties, as opposed to, ya know, the German youth being AGGRESSIVELY propagandized to and subject to literally decades of post-deNazificiation social engineering? If so, please provide it - I'm not accusing you of NOT having it, I'm asking to see it for myself.
The EU is not a good thing, period. A thing in that vein developed after the decline of such an incredibly-flawed and utterly corrupted mechanism? Maybe. But the EU? Nah. That's like saying the US can be saved. Nonsense.
Oh?
Well, first off, you're current on /pol/, not necessarily seeing how a /pol/ack candidate - lel - would approach narrative and discussion, so thats a bit disingenuous on your behalf.
Second, face it man - if you can't deal with (the "kill" bit is a bit of an exaggeration IMHO) these problems, you're not actually making any headway. And if you try to get in power and THEN deal with these problems, your support will evaporate very quickly, because the enemy controls the press, and so, while their pawns might be protected, yours will not. Hence, if you try to sell people one thing and pursue another once in power, you will be fucked.
And really, you have to face it man: Point 3, you HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE KIKES AND MUDMEN INVADERS. If you don't, NONE OF THE 'GREEN' SHIT WILL MATTER IN 20 YEARS, because you will have been demographically displaced and the people coming in behind DO NOT GIVE A SHIT about the environment. These people voting 'Green' and shit, they're being fed pleasant lies, just like the folks voting for "populists" running on the platform of nothing more than "REMOVE MUDMEN AND THEN KEEP BEING SHITTY PHILOSOPHICALLY".