The Green Party gained 20+% of the vote. 30+% among young people.
I can't stop thinking about that we need something radically new in the current century and that old-school right-wing politics isn't enough. What do these populist parties even offer? Just get rid of all immigrants and all will be fine? Then we will continue our current economic policies, our current social policies? That it?
I agree with the Left that a lot of the Populism is just talk to get populist support to gain power. The old Grachian brother and Tribune of the Plebs move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLNvcTK6DTU
Farage for example is worshipped by many people, despite cucking the BNP, preventing UKIP from developing to something more than just an Anti-EU party and prevented them from becoming more nationalist.
If we can't get rid of refugees and immigrants, because you just get turned from wherever you are on the political spectrum to ultra far right, why not build camp-cities for them in our country and try to extract as much value from them as possible? They are coming here on their own. Why not use them as an economic ressource and exploit it as much as possible for the benefit of us?
And radically invest in Education, public transport, development of Green Spaces, National Parks. Try to become energy independet from fossil fuels ASAP.
And the EU. You know, old school nationalism and trying to take Prussia back won't work. The EU is a good way to fullfill our geopoltiical ambitions. We just need to adjust it in a better direction.
Why does Latvia and Estonia need to be independent? They are just going to be influenced by Russia, the US or China. Why not have a European Empire? I agree with Richard Spencer. Being anti EU is too short-sighted.
I am seriously thinking about these issues and I think that something like this might be much more succesful, than bruteforcing deporation of refugees and migrants, which will just get you hated. I think many Lefties would support that.
Can you talk me out of that?
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[–] 18847470? ago
Do you wanna be tied to the Middle East? Are refugees not enough?
Independence from fossil fuels will slowly send the refugees back seeing how they cannot make money from oil and have to use their brains to formulate new medicine instead.
[–] 18847481? ago
I am sorry. I am German. I guess I made a mistake by directly translating it from German to English.
What I mean is that we don't rely on fossil fuels at all anymore.
>>13323705
But everything I said appeals to the Left and isn't racist or anything.
>>13323706
That's the thing. I would be able to critize Israel from a Pro Palestinian perspective, while the Right Wing in Europe is radically pro Israel.
>>13323709
As likely as Turkey joining the EU.
>>13323716
And they don't have a vision. They don't have a Utopia.
In the end their lack of roots in political philosophy just means that our decline becomes legalized and justified, because then our only choice is "this" or "the same thing but slower".
The more I think about creating artifical citites to be controlled enviroments for reguees, the more I like this proposed new Ideology. Just use them as workers. It's like food sneaking into the lion's cave. Why not just take a bite?
Why send them all back, if we can just use them to build stuff? When they are isolated from the general population in the refugee-cities?
[–] 18848151? ago
Which is an objectively good thing. Every utopian idealist has massacred tens of millions if not hundreds of millions on the way to their utopian ideal. We need more realists not more utopian communists.