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[–] 18818671? ago 

I disagree with your interpretation of the idea of Lucifer. Satan is a biblical derivative of the archetype of Lucifer being the light torch bearing truth bringer disobeying the ascribed order of things and the demiurge's illusion to shed light and enlighten the "lowly" human cattle of whom lives/energy that the "god(s)" (read demiurge and his daemon goon squad) harvest for their own selfish purposes and to sustain the hologram. This archetype can be found in other religions other than a dirty desert Semite Abrahamic cults scripture who had literally only 1 person/archetype worth reading about which is Jesus. One example being the Greek story of Prometheus stealing the fire from the kike king god Zeus and giving it to the mortal for which Prometheus was sentenced to having his regenerating liver eaten by a eagle while chained to a boulder.

However Prometheus was not directly involved in the war, so Zeus saved him from Tartarus and gave him a mission – to form a man from water and earth. Prometheus accomplished the task, but while working on his creation, he grew fond of men. He didn’t care much ever about the Gods and their hierarchy, and however friendly treated by them, he was much more comfortable being around the immortals.

In any case, Zeus’s idea was not to have men with any unusual power. But Prometheus was thinking the other way, and decided to steal one of the powers Zeus was particularly sensitive about – fire.

Prometheus Steals The Fire

Thinking about stealing fire was easy, but it finally proved a bit more complicated. Prometheus, known for his wit and intelligence, had an immediate plan – to trick the goddesses throwing them a golden pear (in some version – apple) into the courtyard with a message: “For the most beautiful goddess of all”.

It worked as he planned – the goddesses started a fight over the fruit while gods were completely enjoying the scene. All of them were distracted and Prometheus didn’t have a hard time stealing the fire from Hephaestus’s workshop. Hephaestus was, among other stuff, the Greek god of fire. Prometheus happily left the Gods’ playground and took the fire with him either in a hollowed pumpkin or hollowed reed (depending on the interpretation) and brought it to Earth and gave it to humans.

Oh, how (((Zeus))) (or demiurge :^) ) was mad. After so many times being defied by Prometheus, Zeus decided that it was enough. Nevertheless, he made Hephaestus himself to chain Prometheus on Mount Caucasus where the eagle would eat his liver forever.

But, time passed and Zeus offered at one occasion to free Prometheus in exchange for a revelation of the prophecy that predicted the dethroning of Zeus. Prometheus refused. But much later Zeus’s son Hercules (shabbo good "baste" lads), on his journey to fulfill the Twelve Labors, passed by the Mount Caucasus, saw Prometheus and decided to kill the eagle and free the chained Titan (The

unjust punishment HIS (((FAMILY))) sentenced him to in the first place). Zeus was very angry initially but eventually agreed to grant Prometheus his freedom (if he kissed the ring like a good goy).

Well, some sort of freedom since Zeus wanted Prometheus to carry a reminder of his punishment forever (masonic mark of shame for disobeying (((them))) as a punishment) – he ordered Prometheus to make a steel ring from the chains he was in (prison or symbol in cult), and wear that ring from then on (record or reputation) or. Since then, the mankind started creating rings (thinking (((their))) system represents their friend and Saviour (literal and religious context) while not realising they are praising and helping (((Zeus))) by sending him energy and thoughts) in order to celebrate Prometheus and commemorate his help (blindly choosing wrong symbol/).

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[–] 18830202? ago 

Prometheus

Heh, so that’s what those snarky faggot masons were talking about. I won’t suck the grand masters dick but learned all the rituals and got power from books. Of course they don’t own it, but like bikers and other gangs they front and intimidate.

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[–] 18818707? ago 

Zeus isn't a jew, nor is he cosmic jew.

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[–] 18818686? ago 

The reason why Salvation through works or ascention through Gnosis doesnt work.

You could have been deceived, however much that is. This small deception in the beginning can lead you to misinterpret every further bit of information you come across, and even that info may is fake itself which becomes the basis for further interpretations. As such its ridiculous to assume you can escape this place through knowledge when all of the knowledge you have could very be wrong and you may never know.

Similary trying to be saved through good deeds is futile as well. How can you be sure to know what good actually is? Certainly not all have the same concepts as appearently some think giving children hormones and cutting their dick off is something good, and I assume most people here do think this is bad. So how can you hope to be saved through deeds when you cant even know that the deeds you do are good or bad?

As such the only thing we can rely on is faith. Faith that we do know good from evil, faith that we do understand the commandments correctly, faith that even if we fall short on these things that we are still saved through the love of our Father.

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Obviously other mythologies speak of the same event, as these probably really happened and each culture recording them a bit differently themselves leading to all the myths correlating.

The story is regardless still of some guy, deemed to be smart, rebelling against the established rule, against God, the other gods, or whatever because of the bigoted and unjust rules which are only oppressing and hinder the personal freedom. Lucifer/Prometheus/Satan is basically a SJW. All we have to look at is the current state to realize that the fruit of knowledge was indeed a bad idea.

We could even argue that the fruit was intended for us, just at a later time since it was in our vicinity in the first place. I believe we merely were just to foolish, only just created, figuring out how to call the different things God created, not fit to comprehend difficult subjects like morality yet. Friend of mine, whose word i value a lot said in one of the removed books it says the serpent was meant to explain Adam everything he wanted to know, so obviously we werent meant to stay stupid.

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the truth can be a good tool of deception if you only reveal the right bits of truth. That he told humans something that isnt bullshit does not make him beneficial.

I could tell you I saw your girlfriend fuck another dude, you would probably thank me and break up with her, im the good guy. What i didnt tell you is that I was the other dude and merely wanted you to break up for good to have her for myself. Same bullshit does Satan pull.

And again, the bible is neither written by nor about kikes, its written about whites by whites >>13318275 and >>13318276 and kikes are merely edomitic imposter >>13318279

So the argument "we should reverse roles because its from the kikes" is more than foolish.

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[–] 18837434? ago 

You are retarted

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[–] 18818701? ago 

And this is exactly where I disagree with you. You rely on the "scriptures" passed on after years and years of imposter editing that leads to a version that does not even resemble anything to the structural lines of THE original Gnostic/christian self-empowering doctrines and scrolls that christianity was supposed to be, which instead got subverted by ALL the wrong people to now create this dogmatic idealism where you can only be saved by jesus because we say so and you're powerless yourself. this is indicated by all the scriptures indicating that the divine also resides within, but the parts that talk about how to "use" (reach symbiosis) that is considered incorrect and false to (((some))) who tried to burn these books in the past. I've not read it yet myself but I've seen other anons talk about the Nag Hamadi and that it reads as though the MC is lucifer/you, and guess what? It's early gnostic/fundamental christian knowledge that is interlinked with the hermetic ideas/ gnostic ideas that all relate to the very foundation Christianity relies on which is also the only reason it still stand today, these fundamentals as obscured as they are, are now interpreted as "being saved" "ascending to meet god" "connected with the divine" while in reality they are all one of the same thing which is realizing god and learning about the true self.

What makes you think a hand-me-down scripture from actual deceivers holds the whole truth? It's not like they deceive or anything. This means that most likely the bible contains half-truths that lead you down the wrong path of confusion which explains why so many (((modern Judeo-Christians))) can't seem to get over the fact that their version of the bible might not contain the whole picture.

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This should be basics and otherwise people shouldn't even post in this thread.

>>13318447

Which is why I said sapling (not from that tree perse but still connected) which has the potential to become any plant (within the limits of his genetic soul and genetic flesh). Proclaiming your own presumed identity when you are not 100% is foolish reckless behavior that is sure to lead to misery and embarrassment. I agree also with the first part but I don't consider the demiurge a "god" or anything even close to that; powerful daemon at best with a vast reserve of memetic energy is probably the best bet

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[–] 18818687? ago 

If you don't believe you are going to heaven, then you won't go to heaven

Sounds like the retarded shit parents tell their kids. Can't retarded Christians just get over the their retarded heaven/hell crap? Apparently if god's creation gives you depression, then that's your fault now.

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