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[–] 18816864? ago 

Gnostics think that there is the Monad, the one, the true God so to speak. From him comes Sophia the spirit and somewhere down the line Yaldabaoth. Yaldabaoth is the So called Demiurge that created this fake reality, depending on who you ask out of evilness or confusion and is the cause for our limitations and ultimately death and traps us in here through rebirth LARPing as the real God.

However now comes the hook up. While these seems like an obvious hint to Yaldabaoth being Satan, being the cause of death, the reason for our fall (entrapment in this reality) and ruling this world through lies, fear and temptation Gnostics now claim that the God of the OT is this Demiurge, and that Jesus is Lucifer is the Serpent in Eden send by the Monad/true God to free us from the Demiurge that wanted us dumb (forbidding the fruit of knowledge of good and evil) and oppressed us and was a tyrant with his "unnecessary" strict law. Its an effort to seperate the OT from the NT but Jesus himself says

17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.

So why would Jesus, send by the real God want to fulfill the law and prophets of the OT send by the false God? Obviously this doesnt make sense and shows OT God and Jesus are on the same side, the serpent even gets identified in revelations as Satan

2He seized the dragon, the ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

Its an effort to get rid of the commandments and guidelines of the OT, watering down the traditions and ultimately make us fall from the right path by promising liberation much like SJW do. (Cant say often enough that Satan will come as a SJW promising freedom from Gods oppressive and useless laws)

Now if you read carefully here you may picked something up.

created a fake reality we are meant to escape.

Now how many out there of the celebs are currently pushing the Simulation theory? This theory is basically the same as Bibles Genesis with a few major changes.

makes the creator (the all mighty God) into some pleb outside the simulation denying him divinity and us purpose

substitutes the spiritual realm/heaven with another layer of the material one outside the simulation

depending on the branch of Simulation Theory you get instead of Satan wispering temptation, lies and fear into your mind Saturn casting this fake reality.

Its basically admitting to the creation story while trying to get rid of any purpose or divinity turning us into materialistic, hedonistic or nihilistic consumerist drones.

Gnosticism additionally says this "pleb outside the simulation" is basically Satan. As such you now know where the Simulation Theory push comes from.

Incidently the Freemasons think of the universe as a machine, purely mechanical and a simulated one would be exactly that.

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[–] 19301059? ago 

This is a retarded interpretation of Gnosticism.

You could make another one, along the lines of esoteric hitlerism, that says the exact opposite of yours.

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[–] 18823167? ago 

lion head

is aslan a demurge?

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[–] 19034914? ago 

is aslan a demiurge?

The lion is the traditional king of beasts and is the symbol of a creator god.

The demiurge's appearance is a symbol that is meant to express his nature.

He is portrayed as a snake with a lion's head. The lion's head is how he presents himself to the world, but he is faced away from his serpent body showing that he is unaware of his own true nature because he does not have Gnosis.

However gnosticism has no formalized tradition like Catholicism because it was brutally eradicated and there exist many different schools of thought.

It should be noted that Lewis thought of Aslan as an incarnation of Christ and that Christ in Gnostic thought was sent by the Monad to liberate humanity. So he opposes the Demiurge.

Some of the more pessimistic thinkers in gnosticism however believe that Christ's mission failed and that we are now all trapped for all eternity.

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[–] 18818671? ago 

I disagree with your interpretation of the idea of Lucifer. Satan is a biblical derivative of the archetype of Lucifer being the light torch bearing truth bringer disobeying the ascribed order of things and the demiurge's illusion to shed light and enlighten the "lowly" human cattle of whom lives/energy that the "god(s)" (read demiurge and his daemon goon squad) harvest for their own selfish purposes and to sustain the hologram. This archetype can be found in other religions other than a dirty desert Semite Abrahamic cults scripture who had literally only 1 person/archetype worth reading about which is Jesus. One example being the Greek story of Prometheus stealing the fire from the kike king god Zeus and giving it to the mortal for which Prometheus was sentenced to having his regenerating liver eaten by a eagle while chained to a boulder.

However Prometheus was not directly involved in the war, so Zeus saved him from Tartarus and gave him a mission – to form a man from water and earth. Prometheus accomplished the task, but while working on his creation, he grew fond of men. He didn’t care much ever about the Gods and their hierarchy, and however friendly treated by them, he was much more comfortable being around the immortals.

In any case, Zeus’s idea was not to have men with any unusual power. But Prometheus was thinking the other way, and decided to steal one of the powers Zeus was particularly sensitive about – fire.

Prometheus Steals The Fire

Thinking about stealing fire was easy, but it finally proved a bit more complicated. Prometheus, known for his wit and intelligence, had an immediate plan – to trick the goddesses throwing them a golden pear (in some version – apple) into the courtyard with a message: “For the most beautiful goddess of all”.

It worked as he planned – the goddesses started a fight over the fruit while gods were completely enjoying the scene. All of them were distracted and Prometheus didn’t have a hard time stealing the fire from Hephaestus’s workshop. Hephaestus was, among other stuff, the Greek god of fire. Prometheus happily left the Gods’ playground and took the fire with him either in a hollowed pumpkin or hollowed reed (depending on the interpretation) and brought it to Earth and gave it to humans.

Oh, how (((Zeus))) (or demiurge :^) ) was mad. After so many times being defied by Prometheus, Zeus decided that it was enough. Nevertheless, he made Hephaestus himself to chain Prometheus on Mount Caucasus where the eagle would eat his liver forever.

But, time passed and Zeus offered at one occasion to free Prometheus in exchange for a revelation of the prophecy that predicted the dethroning of Zeus. Prometheus refused. But much later Zeus’s son Hercules (shabbo good "baste" lads), on his journey to fulfill the Twelve Labors, passed by the Mount Caucasus, saw Prometheus and decided to kill the eagle and free the chained Titan (The

unjust punishment HIS (((FAMILY))) sentenced him to in the first place). Zeus was very angry initially but eventually agreed to grant Prometheus his freedom (if he kissed the ring like a good goy).

Well, some sort of freedom since Zeus wanted Prometheus to carry a reminder of his punishment forever (masonic mark of shame for disobeying (((them))) as a punishment) – he ordered Prometheus to make a steel ring from the chains he was in (prison or symbol in cult), and wear that ring from then on (record or reputation) or. Since then, the mankind started creating rings (thinking (((their))) system represents their friend and Saviour (literal and religious context) while not realising they are praising and helping (((Zeus))) by sending him energy and thoughts) in order to celebrate Prometheus and commemorate his help (blindly choosing wrong symbol/).

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[–] 18830202? ago 

Prometheus

Heh, so that’s what those snarky faggot masons were talking about. I won’t suck the grand masters dick but learned all the rituals and got power from books. Of course they don’t own it, but like bikers and other gangs they front and intimidate.

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[–] 18818707? ago 

Zeus isn't a jew, nor is he cosmic jew.

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[–] 18818686? ago 

The reason why Salvation through works or ascention through Gnosis doesnt work.

You could have been deceived, however much that is. This small deception in the beginning can lead you to misinterpret every further bit of information you come across, and even that info may is fake itself which becomes the basis for further interpretations. As such its ridiculous to assume you can escape this place through knowledge when all of the knowledge you have could very be wrong and you may never know.

Similary trying to be saved through good deeds is futile as well. How can you be sure to know what good actually is? Certainly not all have the same concepts as appearently some think giving children hormones and cutting their dick off is something good, and I assume most people here do think this is bad. So how can you hope to be saved through deeds when you cant even know that the deeds you do are good or bad?

As such the only thing we can rely on is faith. Faith that we do know good from evil, faith that we do understand the commandments correctly, faith that even if we fall short on these things that we are still saved through the love of our Father.

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Obviously other mythologies speak of the same event, as these probably really happened and each culture recording them a bit differently themselves leading to all the myths correlating.

The story is regardless still of some guy, deemed to be smart, rebelling against the established rule, against God, the other gods, or whatever because of the bigoted and unjust rules which are only oppressing and hinder the personal freedom. Lucifer/Prometheus/Satan is basically a SJW. All we have to look at is the current state to realize that the fruit of knowledge was indeed a bad idea.

We could even argue that the fruit was intended for us, just at a later time since it was in our vicinity in the first place. I believe we merely were just to foolish, only just created, figuring out how to call the different things God created, not fit to comprehend difficult subjects like morality yet. Friend of mine, whose word i value a lot said in one of the removed books it says the serpent was meant to explain Adam everything he wanted to know, so obviously we werent meant to stay stupid.

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the truth can be a good tool of deception if you only reveal the right bits of truth. That he told humans something that isnt bullshit does not make him beneficial.

I could tell you I saw your girlfriend fuck another dude, you would probably thank me and break up with her, im the good guy. What i didnt tell you is that I was the other dude and merely wanted you to break up for good to have her for myself. Same bullshit does Satan pull.

And again, the bible is neither written by nor about kikes, its written about whites by whites >>13318275 and >>13318276 and kikes are merely edomitic imposter >>13318279

So the argument "we should reverse roles because its from the kikes" is more than foolish.