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[–] 18571301? ago 

Weed and alcohol add no benefit.

Neither does personal happiness from a financial perspective. Their benefit would be merely shaking up one's perspective, albeit you can and should do this in as many ways as possible, like reading and climbing mountains and trying new sports.

they are a means of escapism

Only for the weak, for the strong they are a form of amusement. Are you against people being amused, are you against humor? Are you against fox hunting or horse-racing?

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[–] 18571303? ago 

False equivalency. Going out and embarking on the world is positive and leads to personal as well as spiritual development. There is nothing challenging or developmental about getting drunk until you make a slurring fool of yourself or ripping bong hits until you forget your name and binge on pizza while playing video games.

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[–] 18571304? ago 

There is nothing challenging or developmental about getting drunk

That entirely depends on what you're doing under said circumstances. You falsely assume people who do drugs are all just sitting in their rooms (something plenty of sober people do as well) rather than "spiritual development." So it's not a false equivalence in the slightest, you're just working on false assumptions. Drugs and alcohol don't make people degenerates, their mindsets and habits do, and plenty of sober people are perfectly successful at being degenerates while being sober. Don't be a pussy, ride the tiger.