hurr durr read SIEGE
muh O9A satanism is legit even if Atomwaffen are a bunch of total degenerates
charles manson is not mad at all he is illuminated
nothing is worth saving we need to kill our own people
SIEGE and SIEGEculture is completely and utterly retarded. A product of American nihilism which has absolutely nothing to do with genuine National Socialism (inb4 it is socialism man so like, its, like commie stuff dude).
SIEGE's fondations are only based on hatred and nihilism, and you can even read it in its introduction. Now, I do not necessarily have a problem with hate, especially since it's pretty natural that you hate at least one person, or a group of people. But if you not only hate your enemies, but you also hate your allies (which you don't necessarily have to love, by the way) and even the very people National Socialism wants to defend, the Volk, then you can easily see that pizza pasta porcoddio and everything goes to hell.
National Socialism is socialism applied to race, whether you like it or not. It's in its name. This does not mean it's commie shit, but simply that socialism (workers owning the means of production) is applied to one's race (so, the RACE owns the means of production, and not the kikes).
Service and duty towards the Volksgemeinschaft is what drives people in a NS state. This service and duty is altruism, and love for one's own descendants and ancestors, so strong that it brings one to alienate his own ego and give everything for his comrades.
Do you see any of that in SIEGEculture? Pro tip: no, you don't.
What you see is
hurr system is broken we need guerrilla
jews say hitler was bad lol now we're even badder than they say
satanism is perfectly compatible with national socialism and not at all a degenerate cult
how dare you touch muh satin read this 999999 pages book of the o9a i didn't even start
Fascistforge is the ultimate example of who NOT to listen to. It started as a good project, then a couple of Satanist LARPers came in, and now they ban you for almost no reason, including insufficient belief in muh SIEGE, depriving you of the possibility of even learning where you are wrong (and thus, huh, depriving themselves of forging a fascist?) and a couple months ago people started with this "genetic terrorism" thing where you basically rape negresses lol libtards owned let's racemix everybody
TLDR fuck SIEGE gay jew psyops fuck
OP - https://8ch.net/pol/res/13245629.html
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[–] 18482041? ago
Siege is a practical strategy guide on insurgency and insurrection against the System.
It is meant to dispell the larp myths of drumming up a brownshirt 'mass movement' against Jewish oligarchs because that would be utterly impossible in the current postwar social paradigm especially in the western world.
Whites, even right wing whites, are entirely complacent in upholding the anti-white status quo
EVEN if they dislike it and even if they are racially conscious.
Siege is nothing more than a more hardcore take of Dr. Pierce's "Lemming" principle: That whites will never support White causes until they are deprived of their comfort and have nothing left to lose.
The version of clean cut idealistic National Socialism you speak of is the same ideology of Matthias Koehl who lead the NSWPP after Rockwell's death. Although it was ideologically consistent, it was stagnant and and lacked bite.
That's why SIEGE started. That's why the NSLF broke off and started practicing radical insurrectionary National Socialism. This was a split of 2 different schools of thought- The conservative Natsocs vs the militant radical Natsocs.
I understand where you're coming from, OP but the truth is you haven't read enough on the history of American National Socialism to understand WHY Siege came to exist, and it is because of the failure of Conservative Natsocs who weren't willing to get their hands dirty.
[–] 18926178? ago
No they didn't, the only ones who did were Pierce's guys in The Order. Siegetards LARP while actual NatSocs understand the fine line between IRA style idealistic terrorism and Siegetarded Satan worshipping/trad trap fucking.
[–] 18926182? ago
Lol what retard?Tbh what is even bad about O9A satanism?Legit it's about becoming strong cold and shit well some of the tards cut or wip them selfs and not train instead but what ever.Yes their books are not of the liking but still they do not control Atomwaffen and siege tards are not atomwaffen nigger!
[–] 18491717? ago
Finally somebody who has actually read the material.
[–] 18483084? ago
Let me get this out of the way: satanism is completely retarded.
Siege has problems for a few reasons.
Firstly, American National Socialism just isn't going to happen. We could definitely get something very similar but outside of a fascist/posadist LARP fantasy, the brownshirts just aren't coming. I want what is best for my people and I'm a pragmatist. Reality doesn't have to conform to exactly what I want, it just needs to be a fertile ground for future generations.
Secondly, OP put it well:
>>13245629
Siege is not a practical way of actually securing a future, it's just anger. I'm not going to pretend that accels are totally wrong from a practical or philosophical viewpoint (though I am a pacifist and /pol/ is a board of peace) but just turning inward and becoming some kind of cult isn't how to win. Regardless of times changing, eternal truths are always around. It's not about 2 choices, it's about constant strategic adjustment to attain a never-changing goal.
Being edgy isn't the way to go. Even if, oh no, violence breaks out, it should be done with a sense of righteousness. Straight backs and sober minds, not degenerate fascist Hot Topic.
[–] 18482045? ago
SIEGE as a practical manual? Absolutely good.
SIEGE as the next Bible? No.
[–] 18702350? ago
>>13245721
This.
<siege is so larp and jewish, I'd rather just post pictures of Wehrmacht-soldiers on imageboards because that's definitely true national socialism