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[–] 18482041? ago 

t. person who hasn't read siege

Siege is a practical strategy guide on insurgency and insurrection against the System.

It is meant to dispell the larp myths of drumming up a brownshirt 'mass movement' against Jewish oligarchs because that would be utterly impossible in the current postwar social paradigm especially in the western world.

Whites, even right wing whites, are entirely complacent in upholding the anti-white status quo

EVEN if they dislike it and even if they are racially conscious.

Siege is nothing more than a more hardcore take of Dr. Pierce's "Lemming" principle: That whites will never support White causes until they are deprived of their comfort and have nothing left to lose.

The version of clean cut idealistic National Socialism you speak of is the same ideology of Matthias Koehl who lead the NSWPP after Rockwell's death. Although it was ideologically consistent, it was stagnant and and lacked bite.

That's why SIEGE started. That's why the NSLF broke off and started practicing radical insurrectionary National Socialism. This was a split of 2 different schools of thought- The conservative Natsocs vs the militant radical Natsocs.

I understand where you're coming from, OP but the truth is you haven't read enough on the history of American National Socialism to understand WHY Siege came to exist, and it is because of the failure of Conservative Natsocs who weren't willing to get their hands dirty.

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[–] 18926178? ago 

and started practicing radical insurrectionary National Socialism

No they didn't, the only ones who did were Pierce's guys in The Order. Siegetards LARP while actual NatSocs understand the fine line between IRA style idealistic terrorism and Siegetarded Satan worshipping/trad trap fucking.

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[–] 18926182? ago 

Lol what retard?Tbh what is even bad about O9A satanism?Legit it's about becoming strong cold and shit well some of the tards cut or wip them selfs and not train instead but what ever.Yes their books are not of the liking but still they do not control Atomwaffen and siege tards are not atomwaffen nigger!

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[–] 18491717? ago 

Finally somebody who has actually read the material.

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[–] 18483084? ago 

Let me get this out of the way: satanism is completely retarded.

Siege has problems for a few reasons.

Firstly, American National Socialism just isn't going to happen. We could definitely get something very similar but outside of a fascist/posadist LARP fantasy, the brownshirts just aren't coming. I want what is best for my people and I'm a pragmatist. Reality doesn't have to conform to exactly what I want, it just needs to be a fertile ground for future generations.

Secondly, OP put it well:

>>13245629

A product of American nihilism which has absolutely nothing to do with genuine National Socialism

Siege is not a practical way of actually securing a future, it's just anger. I'm not going to pretend that accels are totally wrong from a practical or philosophical viewpoint (though I am a pacifist and /pol/ is a board of peace) but just turning inward and becoming some kind of cult isn't how to win. Regardless of times changing, eternal truths are always around. It's not about 2 choices, it's about constant strategic adjustment to attain a never-changing goal.

Being edgy isn't the way to go. Even if, oh no, violence breaks out, it should be done with a sense of righteousness. Straight backs and sober minds, not degenerate fascist Hot Topic.

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[–] 18482045? ago 

SIEGE as a practical manual? Absolutely good.

SIEGE as the next Bible? No.

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[–] 18702350? ago 

>>13245721

This.

<siege is so larp and jewish, I'd rather just post pictures of Wehrmacht-soldiers on imageboards because that's definitely true national socialism