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[–] 18316919? ago 

The islamic golden age is a myth. It never really happened. What happened was that the Arabs did what neither the Romano-Hellenic world nor the Persian world had ever managed; they conquered BOTH of them. Uniting the Romano-Hellenic knowledge found in North Africa, Spain and the Nearer East with the Persian knowledge from, well, Persia; ended up giving academics in the region unparalleled access to all the world's knowledge.

The problem was that islam, in contrast to Christianity, was not so accepting of other ideas. Any scholars who wanted to study that information were declared heretics and murdered. The suppression and destruction of knowledge was common place. The other issue was just that islam in general is a backwards ideology that fills people with the idea that 'I already know everything there is to know because a desert pedo told wrote a book', and thus EVERYTHING ELSE was to be discarded. Its pretty rare these days, but some Westerners might know an analogy in some old religious woman who never cared for history, politics, technology or really anything; because she had God and the Bible and that was enough for her. It's quite nice and quaint on an individual level, but when an entire society embraces that ideology you get mass stagnation.

In nearly EVERY SINGLE CASE the innovations and inventors of 'islam' were first generation converts from Christianity or Zoroastrianism. Being brought up a muslim seems to have entirely destroyed one's aptitude for innovation (in a similar way that modern schooling kills innovation and creates mindless drones whose jobs entail doing everything step-by-step by-the-book because they are too stupid to figure out more optimal methods or what the customer really needs; I'm sure you've all borne witness to this ineptitude when trying to something over a phonecall with government agency, when trying to get something from an employee at a supermarket [and usually the manager just instantly sorts it because they aren't quite as retarded and can see what actually needs to be done], or from interacting with a poo-in-the-loo over absolutely anything). The few invention outside of that came from Shiite muslims who spoke a language other than Arabic. Islam causes stagnation and regression.

To surmise: There was no islamic golden age, the only impressive thing was the fusion of the knowledge from the East and the West. Studying it and drawing any conclusions was stricly forbidden almost instantly because it was against allah. Almost every single innovation and invention came from first generation converts from Christianity or Zoroastrianism; islam destroys one's ability to think clearly or logicly.

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[–] 18443909? ago 

100% agreed.

If you found a monkey in an empty library, would you assume it wrote all the books?

Logic is an inherently western construct. Shits think that conversations are about "winning" rather than discerning truth.

Also would add that Persians (actual Persians) are either white or white adjacent. Two civilized powers met head-to-head and only the dunecoons won. Feels like a foreshadowing to me.

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[–] 18398402? ago 

In nearly EVERY SINGLE CASE the innovations and inventors of 'islam' were first generation converts from Christianity or Zoroastrianism

Prove it Muslim hater!

You bigots always ignore Averroes!!!

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[–] 18318196? ago 

I've never read so much ideologically driven bullshit in one post. It's creative, at least.

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[–] 18318206? ago 

Your post implies that I am wrong, yet you have not pointed out how any of the things I have said are wrong. I get that you are not white and as such you do not understand how debate works, so let me help you young sandnigger.

If you disagree with something I have said; then you state what you disagree with you. You then provide a reason for why you disagree with it. You then, if challenged, provide evidence/proof for the reason you previously presented; historical documents, photographs and other sources count as evidence. If the evidence is questionable then we take some time to analyse it and see if there would be likely bias in the author, if there are conflicting sources elsewhere; and we then try to come to a conclusion that is as close to the truth as we can get.

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[–] 18316931? ago 

B-b-but they invented the ZERO anon

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[–] 18318201? ago 

They invented zero is right.. nada, zilch, nothing.

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[–] 18318166? ago 

Not even. Firstly, it came from the Hindu world; which again, islams only success was conquering regions giving them access to that information. Secondly, the man who 'gave it to the rest of the world': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Musa_al-Khwarizmi

.. was, can you guess? He was either not a muslim at all, or was a first generation convert.

egarding al-Khwārizmī's religion, Toomer writes:

Another epithet given to him by al-Ṭabarī, "al-Majūsī," would seem to indicate that he was an adherent of the old Zoroastrian religion. This would still have been possible at that time for a man of Iranian origin, but the pious preface to al-Khwārizmī's Algebra shows that he was an orthodox Muslim, so al-Ṭabarī's epithet could mean no more than that his forebears, and perhaps he in his youth, had been Zoroastrians.