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[–] 17870804? ago 

high fat and low carb is not keto

if its not keto then its the atkins diet which is well known to cause heart disease. an autopsy on atkins revealed he had extensive heart disease.

>>13084477

Like not being hungry and having mood swings all the time because your blood sugar isn’t peaking then plummeting?

anecdotal evidence but i'll bite.

your blood sugar is meant to rise and fall, how fucking clueless are you? not only that, rising and falling blood sugar is not going to effect your moods lmao. how do you know what your blood sugar is doing through out the day anyway? do you prick yourself regularly to check it?

Having more energy because your not relying on glycogen as your main fuel source but fats instead so you don’t need to 'carb up' half way through your ride?

nice fucking bro-science.

Feeling better and looking better because you don’t have all that carb bloat and associated water weight?

there's no such thing as carb-bloat, you retard. stop making shit up.

Oh, and cut out grains. see pic related.

cutting out whole grains

well if you want to miss out on health benefits then sure. Lose out on all the fiber, protein (yes protein), iron, B-6 and magnesium.

Couldn't track down any of the sources in your picture btw. Tons of anons on /pol/s spout bullshit.

>>13084487

>>13084487

You can only get fiber with high carb foods usually…in other words, fruits & vegetables. please point to me these magical low carb high fiber foods. You're getting too that the best bacteria in our guts thrives off of carbs, it produces serotonin for us. There's been studies on this showing people who switch to plant based diets have much lower rates of depression.

keto euphoria

Did you even read the picture? It's showing the plant eaters had lower cortisol levels and higher testosterone levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXty_-3o7X8

>>13085995

eating butter at all

Enjoy your diabetes and heart disease.

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[–] 17878519? ago 

if its not keto then its the atkins

Low caeb doesn’t mean low vegetables. I eat a ton of veg, all low carb high fibre:

Cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli, celeriac etc…

your blood sugar is meant to rise and fall, how fucking clueless are you? not only that, rising and falling blood sugar is not going to effect your moods lmao.

Tell that to a diabetic.

Having more energy because your not relying on glycogen as your main fuel source but fats instead so you don’t need to 'carb up' half way through your ride?

nice fucking bro-science.

Maybe try it? But nope.

there's no such thing as carb-bloat, you retard. stop making shit up.

M'kay, if that makes you feel better you bloated fag.

cutting out whole grains

well if you want to miss out on health benefits then sure. Lose out on all the fiber, protein (yes protein), iron, B-6 and magnesium.

But you can get all those without grains with no carb bloat and no other problems.

You can only get fiber with high carb foods usually…in other words, fruits & vegetables. please point to me these magical low carb high fiber foods.

See above.

keto euphoria

You should try it, its quite noticeable. But you wont because your a faggot.

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[–] 17872524? ago 

Low carb is relative. Less pasta, cereal, white rice, and bread is probably going to be a good dietary change for most people. Maybe "less carb" is a better label.

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[–] 17872516? ago 

>>13087017

>>13087030

vegan copypasta

is 2019

No one is buying it, you’ll either die young or leave the vegan cult in due time, fuck off till then

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[–] 17876293? ago 

copy pasta?

You're a fucking idiot, I'm citing knowledge off the top of my head. Is calling my arguments "copypasta" all you have? You're too dumb to debate with.

>>13087155

Yeah we've evolved smoking cigarettes too for the last 100 or so years. Piss weak argument.

>>13087958

The nutritional profile of animal products is incomplete. There are loads of nutrients you can only get in plants. Once again, carnist on /pol/ are too thick to make the connection here. The nutrients you get in meat from the animal CAME FROM PLANTS. You want the nutrients of a plant packed in an animal wrapped in artery clogging, insulin resistance inducing saturated fat a long with the sodium and L-carnitine that gets converted into TRIMETHLYAMINE N-OXIDE

So far not one person in /sig/ has been able to prove me wrong. At best they cite something their "daddies told em" or broscience flung around on forums.

What good are you mongoloids if you can't even disect information and think critically. Oh right, "EATING PLANTS IS FOR SJWS!!!!111 REEEE!"

Look back and think about me when you're going to the doctor for your blood test results indicating you have high fasting blood sugar and your cant get an erection anymore because your arterial lining cant release nitric oxide.

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[–] 17870805? ago 

there's one big thing meat fags cannot ignore :

ANIMAL PRODUCTS HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ANTI-OXIDANTS IN THEM. without anti-oxidants the inner walls of your arteries will keep getting insulted, damaged and blocked with cholesterol and calcium over time. anti-oxidants are like the clean up crew. a diet low on anti-oxidants is a fast way to fuck your body up and feel like complete shit and get sick all the time.

and lastly : TRIMETHLYAMINE N-OXIDE

A study published in 2013, assessing 513 adults with a history of major adverse cardiovascular events, an average age of 68, and 69% of whom previously or currently smoke, may indicate that high levels of TMAO in the blood are associated with an increased risk of additional cardiovascular events.[6] The concentration of TMAO in the blood increases after consuming foods containing carnitine[7] or lecithin[6] if the bacteria that convert those substances to TMAO are present in the gut.[8] High concentrations of carnitine are found in red meat, some energy drinks, and some dietary supplements; lecithin is found in soy, eggs,[8] as an ingredient in processed food and is sold as a dietary supplement. Some types of normal gut bacteria (e.g. species of Acinetobacter) in the human microbiome convert dietary carnitine to TMAO. TMAO alters cholesterol metabolism in the intestines, in the liver, and in artery walls. In the presence of TMAO, there is increased deposition of cholesterol in, and decreased removal of cholesterol from peripheral cells such as those in artery walls.[9]

The link between cardiovascular diseases and TMAO is disputed by other researchers[10] who are employees of Lonza, a company that sells carnitine.[11] Clouatre et al. argue that choline sources and dietary L-carnitine do not contribute to a significant elevation of blood TMAO, and the main TMAO source in the diet is fish.[12]

Another source of TMAO is dietary phosphatidylcholine, again by way of bacterial action in the gut. Phosphatidyl choline is present at high concentration in egg yolks and some meats.

It has been suggested that TMAO may be involved in the regulation of arterial blood pressure and etiology of hypertension[13] and thrombosis (blood clots) in atherosclerotic disease.[14] A 2017 meta-analysis found higher circulating TMAO was associated with 23% higher risk of cardiovascular events and a 55% higher risk of mortality.[15]

Inhibition

Vegan and vegetarian diets appear to select against gut flora that metabolize carnitine (in favor of other gut flora more coordinated with their food supply). This apparent difference in their microbiome is associated with substantially reduced gut bacteria capable of converting carnitine to trimethylamine, which is later metabolized in the liver to TMAO.[7]

3,3-Dimethyl-1-butanol (DMB), a structural analog of choline, inhibits microbial TMA formation in mice and in human feces, thereby reducing plasma TMAO levels after choline or carnitine supplementation.[5] It is found in some balsamic vinegars, red wines, and some cold-pressed extra virgin olive oils and grape seed oils.[5]

Resveratrol has been shown to reduce TMAO in mice by remodeling gut microbiota.[16]

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[–] 17870808? ago 

in other words, red meat, fish, eggs and dairy products are fucking trash for your body. stop putting that garbage into you. if you dont care about heart disease and not being able to get an erection in your late 40s then at least consider the fact meat and dairy based diets lead to higher cortisol and lower testosterone levels.

muh gains!!!

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[–] 17870807? ago 

the only people disputing the ill effects of TMAO are the shills selling L-carnitine products.