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[–] 17776732? ago 

>>13010121

give it a shot, it worked surprisingly well for me.been smoking cigs/weed and some light drinking for 20 years with little success of stopping it(managed to stop smoking a pack a day, but still 2-5 spliffs daily so i was on avg 2-3 cigs/day).difficult part was free time from work, there is no way I would succeed with normal work/stress routine.first 2 attempts failed miserably after 2 days of being clean, 3rd time worked like a charm.I dropped everything:no weed/no tobacco, alcohol and most important:no stimulants=no coffe or tea.I was so damm sleepy I spent 3 straight day in bed, my head hurt and had some nasty diarrhea at the beginning…I didn't lift or read..I just slept and played with my kids when I could.after 2 weeks I went back to work, first 2 working weeks were a bit difficult..but it eased eventually and after 3-4 months I could even go out partying like a teenager for one night without being afraid I would loose it again.

turns out my occasional partying with heavy hangover next day is not an issue, problems arise when you make it part of your daily routine…