Patrick Casey, the leader of Identity Evropa, disbanded the group entirely because of it's apparent 'baggage' and is now creating an organization called the "American Identity Movement". The new organization embraces a generic boomer 20th century "Americanism" aesthetic in the hopes it will help them in their neverending chase for 'good optics'.
I find this somewhat comedic considering that IE was originally an offshoot off of the American Freedom Party but now they're coming back full circle to the overused 'Patriot' image and even ripping off Patriotfront while they're at it.
When will they realize that every time this branding has been tried it utterly failed? Council of Conservative Citizens, American Freedom Party, Liberty Lobby, all defunct without leaving any significant historical impact.
OP - https://8ch.net/pol/res/12894464.html
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[–] 17258834? ago
sure I understand , but this is still a determining question of "what do we call nationality" … what metrics equate to something being a nation. Why is chinese not japanese?
And my question is , is it possible to make a new nation? Vox seems to say no , I say yes. And this brings me to the question of what is a nation. Because what ever your answer is , I dont understand why a new one cannot be created.
Sure a peoples can control a land, have a language, and share a tradition. Genetics, in time that will be had as well.
Why not? As far as I have heard Vox says that god created the nations. This is not a rational refutation to why America cannot be come a new nation.
We speak english sure, but Chinese and Japanese eat fish. From what I see nationality is closer to political power than any tradition. Because many tradition and pastimes are shared across nationalities.
Hence, Asian, Latino, Eurpoean cultures. Broader ideas of traditions. Nation is a desired will of a group. Prowerful nations are just more powerful group dynamics. Its only the illusion of history that makes you think its anything more.
But again the question is, why cant we create a new nation?
[–] 17258843? ago
Checked Führer dubs for a new Ethno-nation that must be homogenous. Whites of European ancestry only as this Civic Nationalist "American Identity" trope would only repeat current crises. The Ethnostate is an ongoing discussion and debate on /pol/. The consensus is that bloodshed and/or American balkanization can only achieve this realignment.
[–] 17258849? ago
The struggle is to define the white American identity. "White" is a term pushed by our enemies. Never fight on their terms. We need our own brand. Since J-left has abandoned all the american heritage and symbols as racist, AIM has decided to pick them up and run with them as the defacto symbols and mythos of the American Whites. This rallies whites around familiar symbols that already are implicitly white while their enemies reinforce the messaging by pointing that out. Then whites are forced to choose between white identity and their Americana or globohomo and whatever trash icons they're rallying toward. This exploits the cultural divide by making it explicitly about race. Make no mistake, AIM isn't backing down from racial identity. They're instead wholesale claiming Americana. This is good because Americana = European American whites.