Patrick Casey, the leader of Identity Evropa, disbanded the group entirely because of it's apparent 'baggage' and is now creating an organization called the "American Identity Movement". The new organization embraces a generic boomer 20th century "Americanism" aesthetic in the hopes it will help them in their neverending chase for 'good optics'.
I find this somewhat comedic considering that IE was originally an offshoot off of the American Freedom Party but now they're coming back full circle to the overused 'Patriot' image and even ripping off Patriotfront while they're at it.
When will they realize that every time this branding has been tried it utterly failed? Council of Conservative Citizens, American Freedom Party, Liberty Lobby, all defunct without leaving any significant historical impact.
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[–] 17256168? ago
Someone finally figured it out.
They finally figured out that German National Socialism is an irrelevant boogieman to Americans. You guys havent learned, and arent going to learn that parading Hitler's corpse around doesnt attract people who will listen. German Natsoc has been demonized so thoroughly that almost no one in this country will listen to anything you say. This effectively:
If you're an American trying to latch on to German National Socialism with all it's Swastikas and Roman Salutes then you have utterly missed the point of National Socialism, and obscurity is the doom you deserve.
[–] 17256884? ago
But that's wrong you blubbering sped.
The ENTIRETY of postwar American society is based off of WW2 and the Holocaust, if you do not challenge and dispel the myths associated with this your movement will never survive.
Jews are afraid of the collapse of their cultural hegemony which is why they go full bore against open counter-semites.
Instead of comforting this knee-jerk reaction you should be challenging it to break it down instead of conforming to the taboos that Jews have forced on you.
This doesn't mean wave a Swastika, this means be fucking honest and don't sneak around and hide what you believe.
<YOU DON'T NEED TO TIPTOE AROUND ANYMORE
The only people who are majorly triggered by the Holocaust are boomers and Jews.
Young people are less sensitive to the imposed taboos, take advantage of that instead of complying with the system. The boogeyman is already fading away- why cater to our enemies?
We aren't forming a mass movement or a mainstream political party- we are forming a movement opposed to the status quo and until we seize power normal people will never adopt our ideology en-mass.
Stop trying to water down Racial Nationalism to be an accessable toothless one-size-fits-all fluke.
As I brought up
These were all significant pro-white groups who followed your 'successful' methodology and they were the ones whom faded into obscurity.
[–] 17258823? ago
If you look at everything else Carto was doing with The Spotlight and IHR, you really can't lump him in with the kosher nationalists. He was also one of Rockwell's first backers.
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>>12897178
How shall American National Socialism differ from German National Socialism of the Third Reich?
[–] 17256882? ago
It won't lose?
[–] 17256171? ago
What we need is American National Socialism.
[–] 17256886? ago
Yes, and something that can stand on its own.
Something where people dont immediately lose their fucking mind and start shouting in German they learned on google translate.
What this guy is doing? AIM? step in the right direction. National Socialism is worthless if it isnt centered on YOUR nation, and YOUR folk. National Socialism is supposed to be flexible to accommodate the needs and desires of the nation that it is grown in. Not haphazardly crammed into someone elses box.
>>12897186
I dont know, but I'm going to keep trying. I'll keep fighting this lost cause, and if you agree with me so should you. Keep talking to small groups, and encourage them to meet with other groups you've spoken to. Keep telling them to embrace their nation, and each other as a good folk should. The only true shame in defeat is letting it come uncontested.
We do not need to be shackled to the corpse of the 3rd Reich to succeed. We cannot be if success is what we want.
>>12897193
Honestly? I'm not sure. I'm just a laborer with a lot of pride in his nation and his race who wants to see their dignity restored.
>>12897250
Then why not sway the crowd long enough that they will hear you? Give them something tangible. A promise for a better tomorrow, a realistic future for America. When they are listening tackle the hard stuff, and dont throw out "Heil Hitler"s and roman salutes while you do it. Speak to them as an American. Not a foreign ideology.
[–] 17256169? ago
Your talking to a bunch of people from different ethniticies at the same time. That it was always for 1 people not a bunch of mixed socieities living together. It just broils over into gang wars and shitflinging till half of them are in a jail and jamal jackson and jaun esckobar move into your neighborhood and chases everyone out.
[–] 17256170? ago
that kind of belabors my point.
If the option is German brand: National Socialism then white Americans will go with the option that dooms them so as to not appear racist.
You have to get them to stick around if you want them to listen to what you have to say.