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[–] 16937794? ago 

Read the shima…

"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart.

You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

"And when the Lord your God brings you into the land that he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give you—with great and good cities that you did not build, and houses full of all good things that you did not fill, and cisterns that you did not dig, and vineyards and olive trees that you did not plant—and when you eat and are full, then take care lest you forget the Lord , who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

It is the Lord your God you shall fear. Him you shall serve and by his name you shall swear. You shall not go after other gods, the gods of the peoples who are around you— for the Lord your God in your midst is a jealous God—lest the anger of the Lord your God be kindled against you, and he destroy you from off the face of the earth."

Deuteronomy 6:4‭-‬15 ESV

https://bible.com/bible/59/deu.6.4-15.ESV

God did choose the Israelites to be His holy people but their covenant with God was conditional upon their faithfulness and obedience to Him (read above). Unfortounatly, they repeatedly rebelled against God and followed foreign gods. They stopped obeying His ways frequently and faced many punishments. The Jews were worse than the gentiles in that they had the commandments, miracles, covenant, and promises but still rebelled! Paul wrote about them…

"But if you call yourself a Jew and rely on the law and boast in God and know his will and approve what is excellent, because you are instructed from the law; and if you are sure that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of children, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth— you then who teach others, do you not teach yourself? While you preach against stealing, do you steal? You who say that one must not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in the law dishonor God by breaking the law. For, as it is written, "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." For circumcision indeed is of value if you obey the law, but if you break the law, your circumcision becomes uncircumcision.

Romans 2:17‭-‬25 ESV

https://bible.com/bible/59/rom.2.17-25.ESV

The Jews are so bad that men blaspheme God because of them… sound familiar?

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[–] 16937801? ago 

In case you missed it, this passage is Jesus berating them for not living up to the standards of Jews.

"But if you call yourself a Jew and rely on the law and boast in God and know his will and approve what is excellent, because you are instructed from the law; and if you are sure that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of children, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth— you then who teach others, do you not teach yourself? While you preach against stealing, do you steal? You who say that one must not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in the law dishonor God by breaking the law. For, as it is written, "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." For circumcision indeed is of value if you obey the law, but if you break the law, your circumcision becomes uncircumcision.

Jesus did not hate Jews, he hated certain Jews, particularly the Pharisees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woes_of_the_Pharisees

He was a Jewish religious reformer.

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[–] 16938568? ago 

What we know of today as the Jews are the direct philsophical descendants on the Pharisees. Judaism the religion is actually younger than Christianity. Judaism IS Pharisaism.

When the Bible says 'Jew' it means 'Judean', a person belonging either to the tribe of Judah or the more general region of Judea. The 'Jewish' religion did not exist, not as we understand it today. The closest thing were the Pharisees who uniquely followed the Oral Torah, whereas all the other sects did not.

The Oral Torah is what would later be codified as the Talmud. Whilst there are a few verses that might rankle with you from the Old Testament, the driving force behind Judaism and their usury, deceit and manipulation comes from the Talmud. Again, only the Pharisees followed the Talmud (which back then was the Oral Torah).

Hebrew religion required the Temple to be practiced. Jesus prophesied that the Temple would be destroyed, and in 70AD it was destroyed by the Romans. It is symbolically destroyed with the tearing of the veil upon Jesus' death.

With the Temple destroyed the Hebrews could no longer practice their faith. They were left with three options; they could become Romanised, they could become Christians (who has Jesus as their Temple), or they could become a Pharisee (whose Oral Torah said that they do not need a Temple; this is why the Jews and Pharisees had Rabbis as their most important figures in contrast to Priests. The Priests were Levites, they were supposed to have a relationship with God. The Rabbis just studied the Scriptures and came up with their own theories, which they believed to be as important if not more so than the Scriptures themselves).

So after a few years pretty much every Hebrew had become one of these three things. 'Judaism' was born. It was Pharisaism.

Thus everything Jesus criticised the Pharisees for, He is criticising the Jews for.

… And yes, everything would be much simpler if the Bible had called them Judeans or Judahites instead of Jews; but then if it had, the Pharisees would just have named themselves after that instead to confuse us.

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[–] 16937797? ago 

>>12834501

I'm not picking on your or anything, I know you mean well, but you want to argue your side of a contradictory book, and think that you have the argument that wipes out the other side. The reality is that you don't. And there are things you can find in the New Testament as well about how very special the Jews are. There was for example the Greek woman who sought help from Jesus and he likened her to a dog because she wasn't a Jew.

A woman whose daughter had an evil spirit in her heard where Jesus was. And right away she came and knelt down at his feet. 26 The woman was Greek and had been born in the part of Syria known as Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to force the demon out of her daughter. 27 But Jesus said, “The children must first be fed! It isn’t right to take away their food and feed it to dogs.”

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+7%3A24-30&version=CEV

I'm sure you'll argue this with some crazy interpretation or whatever, but to anyone who doesn't believe this religion, the meaning is pretty clear.

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[–] 16937805? ago 

Regarding the woman being called a dog, scroll up… this was already talked about along with a few other points.