"The Waco siege was the siege of a compound belonging to the Branch Davidians, carried out by American federal and Texas state law enforcement, as well as the U.S. military, between February 28 and April 19, 1993. The Branch Davidians were led by David Koresh and were headquartered at Mount Carmel Center ranch in the community of Axtell, Texas, 13 miles (21 kilometers) east-northeast of Waco. Suspecting the group of stockpiling illegal weapons, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) obtained a search warrant for the compound and arrest warrants for Koresh and a select few of the group's members.
The incident began when the ATF attempted to raid the ranch. An intense gun battle erupted, resulting in the deaths of four government agents and six Branch Davidians. Upon the ATF's failure to raid the compound, a siege lasting 51 days was initiated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Eventually, the FBI launched an assault and initiated a tear gas attack in an attempt to force the Branch Davidians out of the ranch. During the attack, a fire caused by Federal agents engulfed Mount Carmel Center. In total, 86 people, 82 of which were innocent died, including David Koresh. "
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[–] 16383073? ago
>>12372803
Not for anyone in the general population.
I was living in Tx at the time the news and all media were cheering on the feds. Everyone was against the waco niggers.
BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ALTERNATE NEWS SOURCES AT THE TIME
[–] 16383082? ago
>>12443148
There's an old saying that every generation thinks it invented sex.
After more than a century of lies, I think likewise, every generation thinks that it invented "alternative media". Especially generations who cannot imagine life without the Internet.
(Same applies as to the JQ, which is really ridiculous.)
In addition to a variety of printed periodicals and publishers of uncensored books, in the 1990s, there were also still some AM radio stations with free speech. I know that some of them were screaming the truth about Waco. There were other "alternative" sources; but I think that "alternative" print and AM radio reached the most people at the time of the Waco massacre.
No, you don't need jewtube and blogs and (((tweets))) and imageboards full of "fashy" talk about "redpills" to get the truth out. The truth has always been out there.
Everything we are talking about was all known and expected and discussed in the "alternative media" in 1993!
Liberty Bell (ibid.), pp. 14, 18-19, with bold added to some names of people who were trying to "redpill" others as far back as the 1920s-30s (!):
>The Davidians imprudently [ >>12425094 ] released the terrorists they had captured and allowed the thugs to collect their own dead and wounded, in expectation that Howell/Koresh and his followers would be accorded a trial, even one before an obviously hostile judge. After some waiting, to permit the jewspapers to dish out some of their canned slime, the massacre began as planned….
[–] 16383078? ago
<all media were cheering on the feds. Everyone was against the waco niggers.
<THERE WAS NO ALTERNATE NEWS SOURCES AT THE TIME
Grossly untrue. Well-informed Americans have always had "alternative news sources" — some at the level of samizdat, some quite professionally published labors of love by men who lived under a stream of Jewish death threats. (George Dietz used to publish some of the spicier threat letters in Liberty Bell, with his contemptuous responses. He was a courageous man who had grown up in the Hitler Youth; and apparently, he was quite well-armed up there in Reedy, West Virgina.) I think it has been almost a hundred years since anybody except ill-informed nincompoops relied on the mainstream media for their news. Admittedly, nincompoops are numerous and prolific.
Above, >>12394141 I cited and linked to a pertinent article in Liberty Bell. Therefrom, I will quote the portion where the author, Dr. Revilo P. Oliver, cites his own sources of information. Obviously, most of these publications no longer exist; and the listed P.O. boxes have probably been passed on to random niggers. But I quote without eliding such information, in case that may help others track down back-issues.
Liberty Bell, September 1993, pp. 2-3:
(Per that last note, I myself would be quite interested in knowing what happened to that reporter and to Jubilee.)
Right here in this tiny sample, we can count five different publications which were telling the truth as events happened and in the months immediately thereafter. They came from many different ideologies: The cited ultra-Christian Jubilee, the vehemently anti-Christian Aryan racialist Liberty Bell, a group of Constitution-loving lawyers, a quite pricey political intelligence and analysis periodical, and that Willis Carto Spotlight thing (which at some point had launched slime-attacks against Liberty Bell).
No mature man with a functioning brain had any excuse to be "cheering the Feds". I may accept limited excuses for naive youths under the age of thirty, and for lightheaded females.
[–] 16383131? ago
I would hardly count this as a wide availability of alternative information.
You have worked yourself into a froth, full of self-righteous indignity.
People hated what happened at RR and Waco
The reason they did nothing was the quick succession of the events, and the VERY problematic nature of Waco
RR proceeded forward through the justice system. The GenPop is reasonably correct to await the pronouncements of 'Justice' because RR would be a defeat for the government, the best way: by their own devices in Court.
David Koresh was a wacko. Pure and simple. The Brand Davidians were a cult. Pure and simple.
Not many people liked what happened at Waco, and there was strong talk, but the problematic nature of the Waco Cult meant that you could never go far to defend them before someone pointed out they were a wacko cult. Just like I am doing to you now.
This is the problem with attaching your cause to wackos. You give the Government a much freer hand to crack down.
Waco is such a shitty cause to attach to, it watered down the RR incident because people were really getting angry about it as the facts trickled out.
And trickle out they did. Even IF you listened to fringe radio or received fringe publications (which you paid for because you believed in conspiracies, had strange and flawed ideology, or had an axe to grind, or were just displaying your personal craziness that way, we've all got it), you didn't get much information about it.
Then WHAM, a group of wackos endures a 2-month siege.
People were angry about it but if it happened today it would be called a FF event by the Jonesians, that's how much it torpedoed support for Populist Militia.
I've been of the opinion that more than OKC, Waco destroyed the growing Militia Movement. Now people who got together with semi-automatic, military-style weapons, could be equated to the Waco Cult.
Prior to that, you could look at RR and say "Gee, I should have more weapons and connecitons than what Randy Weaver had, he got hung out there on his own."
After Waco, it was "Oh yeah, those wackos down in Texas had a whole cash of weapons. Just what am I doing here, offering to help the police search for missing children out inawoods? And that guy over there, he ain't quite right. Maybe I won't show up for next week's muster."
Waco is cancer. Koresh is a poison. The Davidians were toxic.
On top of it, Timothy McVeigh then killed children, which scuttled any and all moral superiority left in the Militia movement. That movement then swiftly petered out, and not until about 15 years ago when BLM madness and accelerating anti-white hate propaganda became blatantly obvious on our EASILY ACCESIBLE AND WIDELY AVAILABLE FORM OF ALMOST-FREE ALTERNATIVE MEDIA, did the militia movement arise again.
And then, only with almost complete reasonableness. As we saw at the Bundy Standoff, when most groups would support defending Bundy assets, but not actually go on the Offensive against a government asset. Because the militia and citizens movement GREW THE FUCK UP AFTER WACO.
You are a very good shill, or delusional, or just a smart kid. But I wish you'd shut the fuck up with your DivertProp about it, young boy, or Chang, or Yuri, or FBI, or whatever the fuck you think you are.
t. I was alive, aware, informed, and connected at the time.
[–] 16383088? ago
>>12443312
I think it's important to keep awareness of contemporaneous sources of information. I decided to start by taking a crack at Jubilee, given its ideological remoteness from Liberty Bell. A quick web search found what appears to be the text of a contemporaneous Jubilee article about the Waco massacre — posted on a Christian Identity website, undated, and freely interpolated with the web proprietor's opinions. I do not know if that is the same article as that to which Dr. Oliver referred, although it appears to be.
I will not link to unreliable, interpolated, improperly attributed text; the search must continue when time permits. Yet as I skimmed through the Biblically educated Christian verbiage, this caught my eye:
Is that the imprisoned reporter to whom Dr. Oliver referred? I don't know. If so, as seems most likely, then it is remarkable, but not surprising! Unless there were two men named "Louis Beam" behaving disrespectfully toward Yahweh's Master Race in the relevant time period, he must be one of the men who beat what the Feds had been intended to be a great show trial in Fort Smith, Arkansas in 1988.
For those who don't know: The Federal witlings charged a grab bag of fourteen mostly unrelated defendants with conspiring together to overthrow the government of the United States. Their intended show-trial fell flat because, rather than availing themselves of one of their many kangaroo courts, they inadvertently pitched their trumped-up charges in a courtroom which featured an old-school honest judge, Morris Arnold, whose great-grandfather had been a Confederate officer — and who was overheard to remark in the courthouse cafeteria that he wanted "this garbage over with" because he had "important cases to try".
Judge Arnold kept the trial honest, making the usual jewridical tricks impossible. The jury's verdict was acquittal of all defendants on all charges. Afterwards, a pretty blonde female juror married one of the other defendants, David McGuire. The whole farce was a humiliation for the ZOG.
Mr. Beam ran his own defense, and started his opening statement with this courageous oratory: "You will be told that I and Pastor Butler and Pastor Miles are enemies of this government. This is the truth. The federal government is my enemy and by the time this trial is over you will understand that the government is your enemy, too."
Interesting to see him turn up at Waco…
For a brief summary of Mr. Beam's adventure at the Forth Smith Sedition Trial (and the torture inflicted on his loyal wife), see J.B. Campbell, "Louis and Sheila", Liberty Bell, May 1994, pp. 16-31, from which I have drawn details in the above description.
[–] 16383074? ago
Appropriate term for the citizen-inmates of the American prison. But it would be so much more stylish to call it the "genpop".