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[–] 16383005? ago 

May we learn from this noble man's mistakes.

Indeed. In that sense, there is such a thing as being "too Aryan".

The Davidians also released some thugs they had captured, instead of keeping them as hostages. Howell/Koresh expected to be arrested and have his "day in court" (on charges which were sealed and kept secret, even from the Davidians' lawyer). I bet he regretted all this when the gassing and burning started.

You just know that I'm about to say something about Dunkirk and Hamburg, etc.

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[–] 16383006? ago 

Having said that he was a bit of a dick head to dither on and on and on about interpreting some verses from the bible when he was entrusted with the safety of innocents. I'm not saying what the government did was OK…the Clintons and Reno are fucking pure evil but Koresh could have at least had all the women and children leave under a publicly negotiated truce..That shit did go on for a very long time if I remember correctly.

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[–] 16383008? ago 

dither on and on and on about interpreting some verses from the bible

To be clear up-front, I have no sympathy with the Davidians' beliefs. I vehemently oppose Christianity; I also vehemently oppose the mass-murder of (mostly) Aryans, who happened to be Christians with some absurd superstitions just as have all Christians. As such, I say the following…

Koresh could have at least had all the women and children leave under a publicly negotiated truce

No, I think it's quite clear that the plan from the beginning was to annihilate the Davidians and leave no witnesses. (Women and children are witnesses, too.) The perfunctory pretense of negotiations was only made for the purpose of fooling people like you.

If the Feds had wanted to arrest Koresh, they could have nabbed him anytime he ran errands in town, as he regularly did. Or they could have served a warrant per normal police process. Instead, they filed secret charges under seal, then sent a small army to launch an all-out assault on a wooden communal home — and then, after a dog and pony show for the public, they burnt the place and absurdly accused the dead Davidians of having burnt themselves.

Their intent was never to arrest. That would mean a trial. A trial means talking.

>>12380390 spoke wisely here. Yes, I "wonder", too. Nobody knows, although there is much speculation on the topic. All we really know for certain is that it was B'nai B'rith who first pointed a finger at the Davidians, thus sending their ZOG lackeys to pounce. Jewish hatred may have been enough. Or there may have been something more. I would welcome some actual evidence, as opposed to speculation.

That shit did go on for a very long time if I remember correctly.

Yes, after the Treasury Department's army (why does the Treasury Department have its own army!?) made fools of themselves getting their butts kicked, they called for FBI help and then dallied a bit so that the jewspapers could brainwash the American public to hate this wicked "cult". I remember that part, too. Then, they annihilated the Davidians with the extreme overkill of attacking ants with a blowtorch. Not only did they leave no witnesses: They very nearly left no bodies. If I recall correctly, it took about two weeks for specialists to identify which bit of charred remains had been Howell/Koresh.