"The Waco siege was the siege of a compound belonging to the Branch Davidians, carried out by American federal and Texas state law enforcement, as well as the U.S. military, between February 28 and April 19, 1993. The Branch Davidians were led by David Koresh and were headquartered at Mount Carmel Center ranch in the community of Axtell, Texas, 13 miles (21 kilometers) east-northeast of Waco. Suspecting the group of stockpiling illegal weapons, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) obtained a search warrant for the compound and arrest warrants for Koresh and a select few of the group's members.
The incident began when the ATF attempted to raid the ranch. An intense gun battle erupted, resulting in the deaths of four government agents and six Branch Davidians. Upon the ATF's failure to raid the compound, a siege lasting 51 days was initiated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Eventually, the FBI launched an assault and initiated a tear gas attack in an attempt to force the Branch Davidians out of the ranch. During the attack, a fire caused by Federal agents engulfed Mount Carmel Center. In total, 86 people, 82 of which were innocent died, including David Koresh. "
Daily reminder that you're living in a nightmarish police state.
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[–] 16382898? ago
Ruby Ridge, in particular, was the result of poor communication and basically opposite conflict resolution strategies employed by the ATF, USMS and the FBI. There was probably a minor coverup in the official reports to hide the fact that one of the agents in particular really fucked up under pressure so he could keep his job.
Waco was less black and white but Occam's razor would point to bureaucratic fuckups between the ATF and the FBI. Reorganization has occurred since to make repeats less likely.
That being said, I would heavily suggest looking into actual evidence and firsthand accounts as opposed to just believing hearsay from survivalist types or the feds. If you're uncritical of literally anything about these cases you're probably retarded.
[–] 16382899? ago
ATF false flagged it all to justify not getting their entire budget wiped. Read a pdf got from here, dont remember where.
[–] 16382901? ago
Think it was a /k improve home defense pdf anecdote, apologies for drunken double post. Sage.