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[–] Warhymn 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I like your first point but think I mostly reject it. I like it because its something I have not heard or considered before. But I doubt watching a non porno movie would make me desire seeing another man have a woman that I wanted. Would this also apply to material goods as well?

I keep thinking it has to be rooted in something like failure, misery, or self hate. And some amount of anger or hatred of women.


[–] Glory_Beckons 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Porn conditions for this in the most direct and obvious way. But, yes, it happens in non-porn media as well. This sort of thing happens in practically every show, repeatedly:

They parade a desirable woman in front of you. Give her a backstory and character that makes you like her. Then pair her off with some handsome guy. Not right away though. Draw it out for a while. Tease you with it. String youhim along. Make you root for him. Oh, and what elation and relief you feel, when he finally gets her.

At the very least, this desensitizes you to the notion. Over time, it builds a mental foundation for "how to enjoy seeing the woman I desire with another man". That doesn't necessarily mean you feel a need or an impulse to go out and cuck right this second. But the framework for it is already there, ready to kick in if something else pushes you into that kind of scenario.

And yes, this principle also works for material goods. But then we're not talking about literal cuckoldry anymore, but "material cuckoldry". Think of how many hours people spend watching others live their lives instead of living their own. In movies, shows, Instagram, Facebook, etc. The most popular YouTube channels revolve around others playing games you want to be playing, opening boxes you want to be opening, driving cars you want to be driving, doing things you want to be doing, but can't do... at least not as well as them. Not to mention the millions getting fat on their couch watching others doing sports, achieving things, becoming famous.

All this numbs your own ambitions, cripples your desire to compete, and stifles your natural urge to take what you want and make it yours. It makes you content. To be docile. To watch others do the things you once wanted to do.

Living vicariously, this is called.

Cuckoldry is loving vicariously.

You're quite right, in the end it is about failure, misery and self-hate. The cuck feels inadequate to please "his" women and, rather than wallowing in inadequacy, seeks to enjoy pleasing her through another (and accumulate virtue points for his suffering). That's the "something else" that pushes them towards it. My point about leftism is about where that self-hate that drives this comes from to begin with.