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On Vote Manipulation + Other Updates submitted by PuttItOut to announcements

you-are-me 5 points 34 points (+39|-5) ago

maybe the definition of brigading Voat's using is too general?

Exactly this.

Using a "commonly understood" but ill defined term to govern is the bane of all free peoples of earth.

Everyone understands what "brigading" means, of course! But, they each have their own definition of what that means in their head.

@puttitout should list specific examples of activities that will count as "vote manipulation" and "brigading" prior to sighting down the barrel of a gun as a "new sheriff in town". Otherwise, we risk a less extreme, but more dangerous version of SaneGoatiSwear cancer.

People will get pissed, say, "Awe come the fuck on, you let that other asshole get away with X and you ban me"? Then they'll lash out against new rules they feel are unfair, purposefully breaking them this time, reinforcing your flawed belief that they were trolls in the first place. Others will take sides and contribute. Troll-spiral is a hell of a drug.

I support putt's actions thus far, proven smart as fuck for not pulling a SaneGoat and sperging out, banning all the minor bullshit no one has a right to be "pissed off" about. We're not guilty of shit, I'm not buying that. You don't label a lawless town "guilty" because people had to defend themselves when there was no sheriff. It's a shitty place to be, but that's just the way it is.

Vigilante justice can be just IRL even if the "law" gets broken to do it. If the Sheriff wants to prevent that then fix this shit:

  1. No well defined explicit rules to break in the first place.
  2. The place became the wild wild west w/o a Sheriff.

For example, and I keep coming back to this, because it's topical and obvious, not because I give a damn: If your moral convictions keep you from demodding or banning the shit out of a troll like SaneGoatiSwear, when there's ample evidence of modabuse, then you have absolutely zero right to get "pissed off" when other people resort to whatever minor means they have available and combat the fuckery, because admins let it continue, and appointed the trouble making reeeeeetard in the first place.

For the sake of argument let's say you pissed off SaneGoat and they went through and downvoated your entire comment history without reading them (hey, if the comments were actually read, then I wouldn't take issue look at the size of this bitch, amirite?) That shit's been going on and it seems like it's not ending soon. So, you create an alt and upvoat your own comment history, a single time on each comment. Is that vote manipulation? Or is that vote correction? Is it a bannable offense?

Is there grievance process to follow so that your extensive staff can handle each little foible prior to the users taking any retaliatory action of their own. Or, is it better to not need that staff, or very strict rules, and let goats handle their biznazz, while your limited staff only handles exceptional cases? Because if you've agreed to the latter, then we're not guilty, we're just on board with your program. Only the exceptional cases are worth being "pissed off" about.

What if you raise awareness about some obvious asshattery going on and that creates public consensus that a user is a shithead and lots of people organically downvoat them. Is that brigading? Calling a town meeting is not illegal even in towns where there are sheriffs, see. And you might not know this, but in the USA citizens can call a Grand Jury all on their own, without using any of the court system, and hold a trial, and carry out sentencing, all without the government getting involved. We don't because there are dedicated courts IRL, but in a strange frontier cyberland, you might want to re-think your conception of what "brigading" means, because there are no courts here.

Besides that, the community doesn't belong to you putt. Without us you are nothing. You may be maintainer, and operator, and for that we're grateful, but the community belongs to us, we created a lot of it somewhere else and took care to bring it here, and we'll take it with us if we leave. So, if the community says, "The gods have forsaken us! Our prayers go unanswered! We must do something ourselves", then that's actually our right to do that. The role of such a cybergod is to respond to the will of the volk, bringing righteous lightning from on high if the people cry out and the need is great enough to summon you. You can be a vengeful god and lay the smack down however you want, or an indifferent god who ignores the community's wishes, but in those cases that just means people will say, "Bad Deity, No Universe," and stop believing in you.

Not adopting "we're all guilty". That's projection. Personally, I think: Talk is cheap, let's see some action. Till then, I don't give a flying fuck if there are over nine thousand Sheriffs in town.

TL;DR: Fuck the police. There are no clearly defined rules to follow. Come at me bro. If we must break the rules to define them, so be it.

On Vote Manipulation + Other Updates submitted by PuttItOut to announcements

you-are-me 2 points 31 points (+33|-2) ago

If you piss off a community on purpose, and then try to claim its your opinions that are unpopular rather than your shitty actions, and constant off topic whining, then it is you who are the SJW.

It's not a brigade when everyone just naturally doesn't like the crap you spew, even if you think it's an organized shill attack.

When you're a SJW, you dindu nuffin. It's what you dindu.

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On Vote Manipulation + Other Updates submitted by PuttItOut to announcements

you-are-me 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago

If you need me, I'll be downvoating the blue oyster cult's "don't fear the reaper".

Fucking hate that song. Oh snap, there's a whole sub that posts nothing but that song over and over! But if I downvote the shitty song I genuinely don't like every time I see it, and I just clicked that link -- am I vote manipulating / brigading?

Honestly, I don't think the Gods care... They're just scaring us with the potential for damnation, they don't really do anything when you sin nowadays... it comes much later, after life-b&. And let's face it, future me getting tortured in hell is some other poor sucker that's not me right now. Screw that guy, he was a dick to me.

On Vote Manipulation + Other Updates submitted by PuttItOut to announcements

you-are-me 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago

No one can prove it's not a dream, so.... there's that.

If you're worried about points, you are here for the wrong reason. submitted by antiliberalsociety to whatever

you-are-me 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago

^- good point.