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3 submissions to AnarchoCapitalism

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5 highest rated submissions:

Doug Casey on Protecting Your Wealth Against Government, and Building a Free Country in Africa | Tom Woods, submitted: 6/12/2015 6:43:13 AM, 8 points (+8|-0)

The Tragedy of the State, submitted: 8/4/2015 3:42:11 PM, 6 points (+6|-0)

Altruism and Racism Cause War, and War Selects for Altruism and Racism, submitted: 8/20/2015 12:27:33 AM, 5 points (+5|-0)

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Altruism and Racism Cause War, and War Selects for Altruism and Racism, submitted: 8/20/2015 12:27:33 AM, 5 points (+5|-0)

The Tragedy of the State, submitted: 8/4/2015 3:42:11 PM, 6 points (+6|-0)

Doug Casey on Protecting Your Wealth Against Government, and Building a Free Country in Africa | Tom Woods, submitted: 6/12/2015 6:43:13 AM, 8 points (+8|-0)

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The Tragedy of the State submitted by properal to AnarchoCapitalism

properal 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago

The hierarchy imposed creates a natural power differential where some are more powerful than others simply because of the status of the position.

This is correct, in this model, the power need only come from the indication of rank and the willingness of the some critical mass of individuals to submit to agreed upon superiors. Individual humans do not have significant physical power differentials between them, It is the social organization that gives them different power. This model accounts for power coming from the hierarchy itself and not power differences between individuals.

Private Defence Agency workers will take over and form cooperatives submitted by MassHavoq to AnarchoCapitalism

properal 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago

States have the same challenge. What stops the police union from taking over the police department? The military you might say, but what stops the military from taking over the government. This has happened in state societies. It could happen in an anarcho-capitalist one too. Of course when takeovers happen even when they are socialist ones they don't usually end up as a worker's paradise.

The challenge is how do you have an organization powerful enough to protect you, but won't use its power to takeover?

One strategy for regional defense is sort of similar to your cooperative strategy. That is to have a small professional elite force supported by many part time community based militia. The professionals maintain the knowledge and skills of defense though they are too small without the support of the militia to take over. The militia are part time and have affinity to the communities they live in so are unlikely to attack their own communities. This is what the founders of the US advocated for. This could be implemented in an AnCap society as well.

See The Hard Problem: Part II draft chapter from The Machinery of Freedom 3rd Ed - David D. Friedman

As for a local security company being taken over by the employees, their success would depend on their customers support. One protection firm being taken over by workers might loose all its customers and its income,leavening the workers with little for their risky takeover.

Now if the whole region was taken over by a socialist movement then even a state might not stop them as happened in the Bolshevik revolution. However socialist revolutions have not yet happened in a capitalist society, they have all happened in more feudalistic societies.

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The Tragedy of the State submitted by properal to AnarchoCapitalism

properal 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago

The hierarchy imposed creates a natural power differential where some are more powerful than others simply because of the status of the position.

This is correct, in this model, the power need only come from the indication of rank and the willingness of the some critical mass of individuals to submit to agreed upon superiors. Individual humans do not have significant physical power differentials between them, It is the social organization that gives them different power. This model accounts for power coming from the hierarchy itself and not power differences between individuals.

Private Defence Agency workers will take over and form cooperatives submitted by MassHavoq to AnarchoCapitalism

properal 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago

States have the same challenge. What stops the police union from taking over the police department? The military you might say, but what stops the military from taking over the government. This has happened in state societies. It could happen in an anarcho-capitalist one too. Of course when takeovers happen even when they are socialist ones they don't usually end up as a worker's paradise.

The challenge is how do you have an organization powerful enough to protect you, but won't use its power to takeover?

One strategy for regional defense is sort of similar to your cooperative strategy. That is to have a small professional elite force supported by many part time community based militia. The professionals maintain the knowledge and skills of defense though they are too small without the support of the militia to take over. The militia are part time and have affinity to the communities they live in so are unlikely to attack their own communities. This is what the founders of the US advocated for. This could be implemented in an AnCap society as well.

See The Hard Problem: Part II draft chapter from The Machinery of Freedom 3rd Ed - David D. Friedman

As for a local security company being taken over by the employees, their success would depend on their customers support. One protection firm being taken over by workers might loose all its customers and its income,leavening the workers with little for their risky takeover.

Now if the whole region was taken over by a socialist movement then even a state might not stop them as happened in the Bolshevik revolution. However socialist revolutions have not yet happened in a capitalist society, they have all happened in more feudalistic societies.