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Oh, they went totalitarian and threaten to use pigs with guns. How great! Land of the fuckin free! I'm so fucking sick of having my money stolen so authoritarian can silence others. And these same people will fucking cry when the other side does it to them. In the Mizzou situation I heard the right crying about these people using force to silence others. Lo and behold they don't really care about that.
It's too bad your downvoat is likely the result of your opinion that individual rights don't matter rather than the worthiness of your post.
Why do you think individual rights don't matter? Is there some reason that people should be allowed to feel threatened by mob violence at work? Do you think a mob of people is the best form of governance?
When we're talking about the individual "right" to use your power over others to manipulate them? Yeah, I'm not exactly interested in that right. Maybe my opinion here would change if we hadn't created permanent records for everyone that follow them around the rest of their lives and we hadn't made college stupidly expensive and almost a requirement to even get your foot in the door in any job area with an opportunity to grow, but that's the fucked up world these kid's predecessors have allowed to happen. So when I see quotes in articles like this it kinda pisses me off:
guess whatever they were protesting wasn’t worth getting expelled and arrested. Must not have actually been that important
Oh yeah, so for something to be important a kid has to throw away tens or possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of work in a system they had no say whatsoever in creating and get a permanent black mark that anyone looking to hire them can pull up and use to discriminate against them for the rest of their lives. That's not fair. That's not the world I want to live in.
Do I agree with what these people are protesting for? No. But I'll defend them so that when some stupid fucking administrators actually imposes rules I think are worth standing up against that the kids affected can try to correct it without the university being able to just silence them and harm their future livelihoods.
Do you think a mob of people is the best form of governance?
I think that's a bit of a leap from a group of students with no power whatsoever. They don't rule shit. But though neither are optimal, I'll take decentralized mob rule over centralized authoritarian governance.
aww did I go against the grain? Do you really think what he said mattered to them? While I'm for him being a mentor and commend him for trying to educate his students on some real world lessons while doing his job as an authority figure. He didn't have his argument laid out. He let them argue against him and every time he didn't a concise point they gave themselves a point. He says he wants his employees to have a "safe space" and that's their lingo which while invalid still gives them a stance to argue from. I can't see the rest of the room but you can see their expressions change throughout the clip. and when they say that blm will be back at 7am they realize that their lesson was lost on them and it didn't sink in. We can't call them idiots because then what are they then doing at a post-secondary education? surely, there were other applicants. If they thought their own lives mattered maybe they would try to improve them as much as they could by getting the most out of university they could through merits and grades, knowledge and understanding and maybe civil debate,