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[–] Grumpy_Old_Man 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Liberals didn't abandon liberalism. They've become more leftist and violent.

I'm not looking forward to the Republican convention. That's gonna be a leftist, violent, shit show.

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[–] Gorhbak ago 

That's because ideas don't really matter in politics

This is the truth of what politics has become today and it is a shame.

The Constitution is not a piece of paper it is a set of ideas on how the Government should work. Those ideas lead to what seperates us from the rest of the world. In the worst of times and the best of times the ideas that don't work, don't work and the ideas that work, work. When we leave behind Ideas and follow imagery and symbolisim as we are doing now we should be prepared for a endless spiral of decisions that will drag everyone further down while feeling like we are doing the right thing, it will lead to further mass confusion.

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[–] EngelbertHumperdinck 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Sometime before 1944. In 'Road to Serfdom', Hayek mentions how the meaning of the word 'liberal' has changed over time.

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss ago 

I'm sorry to hear that.

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[–] Mishima 5 points 7 points (+12|-5) ago 

"Liberals" were never liberal. They were Marxists that co-opted the word to subvert the liberal movement. Just like now they invented "socialist libertarian" - rinse, repeat.

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[–] mamwad 5 points 2 points (+7|-5) ago 

The word "libertarian" was used to refer to anti-authoritarian socialists long before it was used to refer to classical liberals.

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[–] brother_tempus 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

anti-authoritarian socialists

no such thing .. there can be no socialism without the existence of authority