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[–] PuzzlePirate 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Oh come on, we already know the answer to the Fermi Paradox.

We exist because they allow it, and we will end because they demand it.

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[–] pray_the_gay_away ago 

There is ample evidence that intelligent life has already visited this planet. But any species intelligent enough to travel the stars is also smart enough to realize that it would be a mistake to reveal themselves to the fat violent religious sociopath humans. If they shared their awesome technology with us, we would use it to build weapons that threaten them. Even if they just revealed themselves, we would blame them for not helping us with our problems. We probably are going to blow ourselves up. The ETs don't want to get involved in this mess.

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[–] Carsandsarcasm 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I think the real reason that we haven't found anyone else is because even light speed is way too slow to get anywhere in the universe. To travel an appreciable distance, we would need something like a Deathstar because it's going to need built in farms, water filters, power stations, ridiculous amounts of fuel, endless medical and everyday supplies, endless construction materials, etc. It needs to be able to sustain a large population for thousands of years and generations of people while travelling at light speed, be able to be repaired, be able to dodge everything out there, and it goes on and on. The logistics of long distance space travel are astronomical (excuse the pun).

The other reason is because we might be at the wrong time. Other civilisations may have risen, fallen, and been completely buried by now. Likewise, we might not be noticeable before anyone finds us. We've only been actively looking for a very short time. The ridiculous numbers of time and distance involved with the universe makes running into anyone stupidly unlikely.

I think there is life, but I think it's more likely to be moss growing on a rock or something. That's what Earth was for most of its life.

Anyway, onto fat hate. I think they will be the death of us. I think they will cause us to continue our unsustainable ways because they are entitled until we simply run out. I think they will put the Earth into a condition where we can't survive. Earth will live on, but we won't. It's happened before. Either way, I don't think we will have the option of space travel and will die out.

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[–] marymarynotcontrary 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

All the SF nerds like to think there must be faster-than-light travel somewhere. But we really have NO reason to think that's true.

Anyway, from 2100 on there is already going to be a massive shrinkage in population. Question is whether it will ever stabilize.

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[–] Harry_Areola 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Not if it's ran by artificial intelligence. Sending humans on that trip is a silly idea, but an advanced civilization might have some androids or a very intelligent computer. There's no reason to include anything but but a power source and a way to recycle materials in order to make spare parts.

The Fermi paradox is bullshit though. We don't know the probability of life arising. Trying to make statistical implications from a single observation is for fools.

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[–] DelusionalHominids 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

As long as we have enough educated well motivated people to watch the nuclear power plants (and not like homer simpson), and run everything else that requires a sharp well disciplined mind and body, we should be more or less okay. Fats in the military will be less of an issue in a few decades when nearly everything is done by remote. Too many fats in law enforcement can really fuck things up though.

Are they the downfall of humanity? No. But they can easily be the downfall of civilized societies and perhaps cause enough collapse to eventually disrupt global infrastructure, but I don't think we'd ever get to that point. We're much more likely to collapse from the orwellian advance of current feminism and other socially marxist ideological constructs. It could set us all back a few hundred years, but I doubt it would wipe us all out.

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[–] zarraha 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

We can only fall so far until survival of the fittest comes back into play and people have to actually compete for resources, at which point the obeasts will start dying off and/or be motivated to get fit. That won't happen unless we've fallen so far that people are starving to death and killing each other for resources, which is pretty catastrophic, but it's a lower bound beyond which fat people can't push us below.

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[–] DelusionalHominids 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Thing is, we only have to fall low enough to trigger nuclear annihilation. That's a lot less farther down than survival of the fittest.

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[–] Calawyn ago 

Not as long as we never become them.

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[–] HeavyBeefCurtain 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

No. They are a social construct.