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[–] sonic_bison 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
They'll come out of them when they get back to the HQ....After their shift of mowing down anyone they encounter that poses any type of threat.
Then, they'll eat a solid meal and get a good nights rest at the eoc while their relif takes over.
Some of them will die, but that's the job. The military will be out "helping people in need"and boot jacking anyone they feel like.
Edit* also..yes, the population vastly outnumbers the police. if you think that the vast majority of the population will rise up and start shooting police, you are sorely mistaken. Depending on the part of the country you live in, most families don't even own guns. If they do, it's usually 1 pistol or rifle.
You are in some fantasy where every house has some military cache beneath the floorboards ready to strike at a moments notice.
[–] Ajaxofbarbaria 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
TIL my ancestry failed me by not bequeathing a weapons cache.
[–] DeliciousNoseClams 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
They wouldn't have all that crazy ex military gear if they weren't afraid of something...
[–] sonic_bison ago
Who's gonna assemble the entire population into an 'army' capable of standing up to the actual army currently in place??
You're greatly overestimating what the average Joe will do once the shit goes down.
[–] pepepepepe ago
I think you're underestimating the morality of individuals in the military. Given the right initial conditions, I think a significant portion of them would desert or turn their guns around. Even the most discliplined soldiers will question why they're going door to door in American neighborhoods to hunt down American citizens.
[–] JimboBillyBobJustice 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago (edited ago)
I have 4 sets of weapons spread around the east coast of the US. Each cache has 1-Bushmaster AR-15,1-Remmington30-06,and 1 Browning 9mm. About 1box of ammo for each sealed in a vacuum sealed bag.The caches also include about a weeks worth of food and water. When the US turns to shit and everyone is fighting either for their lives or against the government...I'm good to go
[–] ScreaminMime 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
... for a month.
1 month is more than enough time to figure out the safest place and head there
[–] password-123 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
one box of ammo for each.
50rds each? I'd put more than that in your caches.
[–] sonic_bison 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
You'll get shot by some cop the first night :/
[–] JimboBillyBobJustice 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Well at least I'll have a weapon to shoot back
There are 101 legal firearms per 100 persons in the US.
If you know anything about the history of warfare, you'd realize that 800k cops, no matter how well armed, will not win against a rebel force that well armed.
Even poorly armed guerilla forces are nearly impossible to deal with.
[–] sonic_bison ago (edited ago)
800k cops? What about the national guard? Army reserves, Army/navy/Air Force/marines?
Pretty sure once cops lose control of their city, shock troops would be deployed to restore order. Once things get bad enough it's just a quick flyby from an F-16 (or drone) to clean up stragglers.
How many anti-aircraft surface to air missiles you got per 100 citizens?
There is simply no way for us to hope to win a fight if the military turns on the citizens.
Edit* if you want proof of this, take a look at some of the infrared bombing runs in Afghanistan and have fun trying to hide your heat signature from a 30million dollar drone
[–] Darth_Shitlord ago
Not sure if you saw the rolling army of militarized police back during the ferguson riots, but what exactly is your plan to "stand up" to that?
Easy. You go after their families. Cops live in the communities they work in. How long do you think the police force will stay on the side of government when Johnny Law comes home to find his family's entrails strewn about his living room?
[–] sonic_bison ago
Oh right. Suddenly everyone will have the stomach to butcher a cop's innocent family.
Just like in ferguson where all the law abiding citizens hunkered down waiting for things to blow over?
You're thinking that there is gonna be a single event that causes all of the law abiding population to rise up against the police? I disagree. What we're seeing is a slow and steady build up. This will take generations and tomorrow's pussies will be so used to injustice it won't even matter.
[–] Darth_Shitlord 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I think one event could spark it, but unless there is any sort of organized opposition government that states or regions decide to follow instead then the revolt would devolve into disorganized chaos. In that case then waging a rebellion using rules and conventional methods won't be able to take the gov't down, you'd have to resort to tactics like killing families of cops in order to not yourself be killed. I'm not saying it's pretty or that I'd even want that, but that may be the only choice effective enough to get change. They'll keep pushing people until that's the only choice.
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[–] sonic_bison ago
Except it really is that simple. Even if tomorrow we were thrown into anarchy, all we have to do is look to what happened after Katrina to see how we'd react.
Lots of cops went rogue and looted/murdered as they pleased. Gangs did the same. The national guard came in and restored order and life went on. That huge swath of the population you say would rise up and fight back? They are lining up at shelters trying to get a meal and a good nights sleep. Meanwhile anyone out on the streets is living in the Wild West
[–] sonic_bison ago
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but in the U.S. We won't see a unified rebellion against the government. Period. Maybe at one point the citizens in the U.S. were like-minded enough to join together, but we can't even agree on voting to overthrow a corrupt government.
[–] Radial 0 points 24 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago
If illiterate Arabs with ak47s and IEDs can make our military machine grind to a halt i have confidence in the ability of the American people.
[–] bm2112 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
You have a damn good point. If our citizen's were unified in rebellion, even against our own military, it would be a hell of a battle.
[–] albitzian 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
It won't work like that, when it finally goes down, most rural police and almost all sheriffs departments will stand with the people, the military will be split 60/40. It will be messy, real messy.