[–] chronos [S] 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
TIL I learned this fun definition after I noticed a comment I made was deleted from /v/antigamergate by apparent shill @thejester. They posted what seemed to be a very lopsided, judgmental interpretation of an article and I called them on it and they proceeded to delete my comments as well as another comment that supported what I was saying.
Who cares? Well, this is the first time being on Voat made me mad. Up till now it was pleasant or at worst, frustrating a little.
For anyone interested, the link I commented on is here and the deleted comment is below. https://voat.co/v/antigamergate/comments/72651/114322
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Your comment has been deleted by: TheJester on: 4/2/2015 6:06:55 AM Original comment content was:
They explained very clearly why they do not want to hire women. They are going for a masculine, manly man type of gamer site. They also said they like women, have nothing against women and welcome female readers and gamers. They just don't think women are a good fit writing for a manly man gaming site.
So why do you call them "misogynistic shitholes"? Because they are honest? Should they be forced to hire people who are not right for the job?
I read the entire article and thought they did a great job of explaining why they are not hiring female writers.
Just not getting the justification for your label of them.
[–] [deleted] ago
The point for me is they think they need men. No one should be able to force them to hire someone they don't think is qualified. If I think I need big burly guys as bouncers in my bar should someone be able to make me hire a skinny Jujitsu expert? Whether they are right or not is another matter altogether. For me, you make some interesting points to consider.
[–] Chattery 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago (edited ago)
I remember reading an article complaining about Robert Orci being hired to direct Star Trek 3, and the point of the article "why won't Paramount hire a woman director?"
The writer of the article, a woman, neglected to mention or make reference to any established female directors like Catherine Hardwicke, Patty Jenkins, Karyn Kusama or Kathryn Bigelow (just to name some), and instead focused the entire article whining about how misogynistic the film industry is.
While the writer may have a point, she neglected to realise you can't make someone do something they don't want to do just because of their gender. What if none of these female directors are interested in Star Trek 3? Also, having just finished a film class, our class literally had one female in it.
Female directors do exist, and the playing field is better because of it, but the issues are simply down to interests, skill set and box office history.
I didn't find out if the writer responded (doubtful) but I'm getting sick of these arguments that are one-sided and ill-informed.
So would Cosmopolitan be alright turning men away (let's, for argument's sake, say straight men) because Cosmo isn't aimed at them? Of course, because Cosmo is aimed at women, made by women for women.
The Mary Sue exists, catering for all nerdy things from a female perspective, so why can't one gaming site using a gimmick of being a man gaming site do the same? I'm not defending the rejection of people simply based on gender, but if they don't have the skills, they don't deserve the job.
EDIT: Also, Anita Sarkeesian is a disease that threatens true equality, and going to different language versions of the wiki article linked on that sub proves the bullshit editing on the English version. The whole thing was simply about ethics in gaming journalism which got turned into a circlejerk for "boo hoo we're poor defenceless women everyone attacking us is a man because we're women", no, you're being attacked because 1) you're dishonest 2) Don't even get me started on Wu's self-trolling 3) you're diverting attention from the actual issue, devs sleeping/dating with gaming journalists for good reviews.
[–] chronos [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
The whole thing makes me feel sick. Like that entitled brat who tried to take down Stephen Colbert for making an anti Asian slur joke.
I love women and think they are entitled to everything men are within limits of gender of course.
The problem is not men or women. It is all people. Why does everyone think they have a right to be offended all the time? All these idiots (men and women) would better spend their time helping the homeless, jobless or friendless than taking up non causes and making an issue out of non issues. Or better yet, join a religion and go on some overseas missions and see how 99% of the world are barely getting by while they drink diet coke and drive their SUV.
[–] Vercingetorix 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
/u/thejester -- voater for 6 entire days and already pulling bullshit.
[–] edam ago
Wow. That's a really crappy account! I literally just joined and, AFAICT, my account looks better than theirs.