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[–] Goatburger 3 points 5 points 8 points (+8|-3) ago
I love they always say "denial" like it's a religion. "YOU MUST BELIEVE HERETIC". And anyway, climate change may or may not be real. The actual question should be "are humans causing it".
[–] SillySnoot ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU
Veritasium covers the misconceptions pretty well.
[–] ChaseWegman [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Hahahaha you don't know how to read graphs, you just trust others to do it for you. You should bother to read the data and understand it.
[–] TheFerretman 6 points 0 points 6 points (+6|-6) ago
I work with ~500 other scientists and engineers; all of us laugh at the AGW propaganda.
[–] PM_nudes_pls 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
As a person working in the geospatial analysis field, I do too.
[–] SillySnoot ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU
Can you dispute any of this information? Not disagreeing/agreeing with any side, just getting a feel for what the facts are.
[–] ChaseWegman [S] 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
Climate change denial has come a long way, at first it was that the climate wasn't changing, now it's just "natural" change from sun spots. Maybe one day they'll just stop denying facts. Probably not though.
[–] indiglo_girls 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
The climate is a dynamic system, therefore it's always changing. It's also more complex than we currently understand.
[–] ChaseWegman [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Are you denying that the current change we see is caused by humans?
[–] 3508189? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
While I do think humans are fucking the planet quite permanently, I think a lot of people are scared into thinking when you have an unusually hot weekend or two in December that "it's climate change destroying the planet, we're all dead". I don't think your average citizen can measure climate change on the slight and gradual amount it's happening over time. So it's idiots being scared into thinking weirdly warm or cold weather (hint: there's a reason it's called AVERAGE) means we're all dying.
[–] Brawndosaurus 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Skeptics are called deniers. That's saying a lot - you better not blaspheme the religion of the Left. Legit science /s
[–] ChaseWegman [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Human caused climate change has already met the burden of proof leaving no room for any serious skeptic. Do you call flat-earthers skeptics too? Should someone who doesn't believe in gravity be labeled a skeptic?
There are no serious skeptics left, only morons and paid shills denying the facts. The debate is over.
[–] Gigan 8 points 7 points 15 points (+15|-8) ago
Can't deny climate change if you live in Beijing. That place has been proper fucked up.
[–] KinkRaven 9 points 7 points 16 points (+16|-9) ago (edited ago)
That's environmental pollution issues, not climate change.
Also China is completely responsible for that. It has nothing to do with rising tempatures or changes to climate. (which also don't seem to be happening, hence its climate change now not global warming).
They just pollute the fuck out of their cities, that isn't caused by climate change. It comes from having a shitty single party government system.
[–] Gigan 3 points 2 points 5 points (+5|-3) ago
Climate is part of the environment. If the local environment can be changed, so can the global environment. It's just a matter of scale.
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[–] CatNamedJava 4 points 1 point 5 points (+5|-4) ago
Beijing is suffering greatly from climate change as the area is suffering from desertification and drought.
[–] PardiGras 4 points 0 points 4 points (+4|-4) ago
I hope the oil companies are at least paying you something to lap up their propaganda so eagerly.
[–] 9-11 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
with enough profits from making all those plastic mcdonalds toys... they might be able to clean their air/water.
[–] aaronC ago
A large part of Beijing's problem is that it's a massive city that's completely land locked. If you look at nearly all major cities of that size, they're by water so the winds can take away the pollution. There's about 20 million people in Beijing, and New York City, America's most populated city, has 8.5 million and is on a coast. Major urban centers don't work very well when they are land locked, at least when they're Asian super-city sized.
If the jet stream moves and doesn't bring the winds they need, like what happens with an El Nino in the US, the pollution is not swept away and just sits in the city.