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[–] Gigan 8 points 7 points (+15|-8) ago 

Can't deny climate change if you live in Beijing. That place has been proper fucked up.

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[–] KinkRaven 9 points 7 points (+16|-9) ago  (edited ago)

That's environmental pollution issues, not climate change.

Also China is completely responsible for that. It has nothing to do with rising tempatures or changes to climate. (which also don't seem to be happening, hence its climate change now not global warming).

They just pollute the fuck out of their cities, that isn't caused by climate change. It comes from having a shitty single party government system.

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[–] PardiGras 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago 

I hope the oil companies are at least paying you something to lap up their propaganda so eagerly.

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[–] CatNamedJava 4 points 1 point (+5|-4) ago 

Beijing is suffering greatly from climate change as the area is suffering from desertification and drought.

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[–] Gigan 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

Climate is part of the environment. If the local environment can be changed, so can the global environment. It's just a matter of scale.

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[–] 9-11 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

with enough profits from making all those plastic mcdonalds toys... they might be able to clean their air/water.

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[–] aaronC ago 

A large part of Beijing's problem is that it's a massive city that's completely land locked. If you look at nearly all major cities of that size, they're by water so the winds can take away the pollution. There's about 20 million people in Beijing, and New York City, America's most populated city, has 8.5 million and is on a coast. Major urban centers don't work very well when they are land locked, at least when they're Asian super-city sized.

If the jet stream moves and doesn't bring the winds they need, like what happens with an El Nino in the US, the pollution is not swept away and just sits in the city.

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[–] Goatburger 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

I love they always say "denial" like it's a religion. "YOU MUST BELIEVE HERETIC". And anyway, climate change may or may not be real. The actual question should be "are humans causing it".

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[–] SillySnoot ago 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU

Veritasium covers the misconceptions pretty well.

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[–] ChaseWegman [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Hahahaha you don't know how to read graphs, you just trust others to do it for you. You should bother to read the data and understand it.

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[–] TheFerretman 6 points 0 points (+6|-6) ago 

I work with ~500 other scientists and engineers; all of us laugh at the AGW propaganda.

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[–] Langgy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Wait, do you laugh at the propaganada of anthropogenic global warmingists or anti global warmingists?! You science types and your initialisms dammit!

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[–] ChaseWegman [S] ago 

I guess you can either laugh or cry.

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[–] PM_nudes_pls 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

As a person working in the geospatial analysis field, I do too.

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[–] Langgy 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Wait, did you just reply because you're into ferrets?

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[–] SillySnoot ago 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU

Can you dispute any of this information? Not disagreeing/agreeing with any side, just getting a feel for what the facts are.

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[–] PardiGras 5 points 0 points (+5|-5) ago 

Certainly it wouldn't be in the country with the wealthiest and most powerful oil magnates, controlling the largest, most sophisticated system of propaganda and corporate-funded 'science' in all of human history?

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

The title is somewhat inaccurate. The question is whether they think it is human caused, not whether climate change exists

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[–] ChaseWegman [S] 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Climate change denial has come a long way, at first it was that the climate wasn't changing, now it's just "natural" change from sun spots. Maybe one day they'll just stop denying facts. Probably not though.

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[–] Crashmarik ago 

Proof or you are just talking out your ass, to virtue signal.

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[–] indiglo_girls 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The climate is a dynamic system, therefore it's always changing. It's also more complex than we currently understand.

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[–] ChaseWegman [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Are you denying that the current change we see is caused by humans?

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[–] Unreasonable 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

This title... it's so full of Newspeak.

First the term "Climate Change Denial"; this term alone vilifies anyone who doesn't agree with "Climate Change" as a "denier".

Doesn't matter what they disagree with, let it be the constantly shifting computer models provided by a biased Government organization as the only proof of "Climate Change", or that temperature readings over the last 18 years have shown no warming, cooling, what-so-ever, or that the ice sheets are increasing in size and we currently are seeing record polar bear populations, or many other points. Pick one, any one and you are deemed a "denier".

Then the fact the study didn't look at who "Denied Climate Change" it looked at people who accepted the concept of Climate Change but disagreed that it was man-made. This is some crazy conflation here. Again, disagree with any part of the narrative and you are a denier!!!

Now lets tear apart the term "denier". This is my final point. I can only deny dogma. Scientific Theories are "disagreed with"; dogmatic religious beliefs are "denied".

Belief in Climate Change is akin to a dogmatic religious belief and anyone who spouts such obvious Newspeak is an evangelical Climate Change preacher.

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[–] ChaseWegman [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I just noticed what your username is and that explains it all. Well done troll... well done!

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[–] Unreasonable ago 

Not a Troll. Just Unreasonable. I fully stand by my statement.

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[–] Brawndosaurus 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Skeptics are called deniers. That's saying a lot - you better not blaspheme the religion of the Left. Legit science /s

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[–] ChaseWegman [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Human caused climate change has already met the burden of proof leaving no room for any serious skeptic. Do you call flat-earthers skeptics too? Should someone who doesn't believe in gravity be labeled a skeptic?

There are no serious skeptics left, only morons and paid shills denying the facts. The debate is over.

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[–] Brawndosaurus 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Not how science works.

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