[–] DickHertz 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Turkey claims they had 10 warnings prior to entering their airspace - with a bomber. What do you suppose Russia would do in that circumstance? Especially after the country doing it had done it before and been warned to stay out?
If Russia wasn't pushing everyone's borders around the world then it might have looked more like an accident rather than outright contempt of Turkey.
[–] Somali ago (edited ago)
If Russia shot down every NATO plane that triggers its airspace and NATO did the same you'd be living Fallout 4 rather than playing it.
Turkey violates Syrian and Greek airspace daily. When Syria shot down a Turkish plane in 2012 Edrogan flat out stated that the plane being in Syrian airspace for a little time is no justification for it.
Turkey knew that the bomber was targeting rebels in Syria and was no threat to Turkey. If the bomber really did enter Turkish airspace for 5 seconds you send an escort and establish a visual. But it was shot down over Syria by a plane registered by Hmeymim radars to have gone into Syrian airspace to do it. Russian command confirmed that they got no warnings from the plane and Turkey hasn't published any supposed audios of communication. It was clear they're covering their ass the moment they instantly ran to summon NATO before even establishing a line of dialog with Russia.
[–] DickHertz 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
The crash site was 4km outside of Turkey. If they detected the missile and went to full speed that's like twelve seconds away so that hardly proves that they were shot down by a plane already in in Syria. Last time they overflew Turkey the Russians claimed it was accidentally caused by bad weather as if we are supposed to believe Russian bombers are incapable of navigation in bad weather. Come on.