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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

Now this right here, this is actually a good idea. This is how charity dollars should be spent, on something that's good for everybody.

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[–] Scotcheggs 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

This is how UK wants to make the JSA benefits sytem work. I'm all for it. I wouldn't doubt Canada was inspired by the JSA propositions. We don't have homeless people like the states (or Canada it seems) but it would be good to get the benefits cheats or the lazy to contribute to society for once.

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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

They would never be able to this in in the U.S. because city unions would never allow it. I remember the city unions fighting the city for using prisoners to paint highways because it took jobs away from their unionized workforce.

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[–] rwbj 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If you don't see the difference - prisoners in the US are treated basically like slave labor. Those workers were likely getting somewhere between 10c and a dollar per hour. Using prison labor is basically a way for companies, and the government, to skirt labor laws. So long as the real unemployment rate is > 0 using prison labor for jobs that free people could be working is just so backwards. Those are jobs that free citizens could be doing for a proper pay check to put food on the table and a roof over their heads.

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[–] WickedVocalist ago  (edited ago)

Even McDonalds in California was forced to use people on parole or probation for community service programs - this was all mandated when after the recession, no one had money at all to eat out and some franchises signed up to be paid through the SNAP hot meal program, so people lacking a kitchen or the homeless on SNAP could eat at McDonalds. Because it was community service, they didn't get paid a penny - I know this because one of my roomies in LBC was a manager there and they did it all the time.

All the nonprofit halfway houses and residential missions through section 8 absolutely loved it - the 'charity' owners were rolling up in a brand new Lexus or Mercedes, and investing their profits in non profit music labels and crap for the homeless to achieve their 'dreams and goals'. Such a scam.

Yet the residential centers had waiting lists 8 years long and only took a certain number of people, all of whom had been between there to jail and back for decades in some cases.. Revolving door.

Then a couple of the men who owned these shelters were found out to be operating a strip club on the side and guess who they found working there and living in squalor? They got shut down and people were angry because they were such philanthropists. All of this was endorsed by scum like OC Weekly and liar Ginsburg, who makes 100k a year.

Some of the 'residents' would try to get jobs, but the owners would never shut up about how mentally ill and unemployable they were so they weren't hired until the dudes got locked up - miraculously some got jobs after their haters and exploiting parties were out of the way.

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[–] Amateur_Wizard ago 

Then they should do their fucking job, no?

The idea to have prisoners or homeless cleaning the streets wouldn't exist if the streets were clean in the first place.

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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 ago 

Then the unionw will say they're understaffed and underpaid. Cha-ching! Picketing for higher wages!

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[–] freedumbz 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

It looks like a great idea, but are the homeless going to work or just pretend to work for easy money? I really hope this works.

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[–] Rellik88 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Speak for yourself slacker.

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[–] WickedVocalist ago 

In the US the homeless are shunned, because the people who make sure they lose their job or get in legal trouble to end up there have a keen interest in keeping them there.

They also have a keen interest in making sure the crazy folks stay crazy, or else they might be believed when they spread their dirt and drama to the public..

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[–] ScottRockview 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Winnipegger who drives through downtown every day checking in. I only see them working. I have never seen them being lazy and it makes sense: they WANT to work and signed up to do it.

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[–] freedumbz ago 

:)

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[–] didntsayeeeee ago 

The good thing about the fact that there's more applicants than places is that they can bar people from it. So the people in charge can just check in on them once in a while and see if they're working; if they slack off too much then you can bar them.

Making it an official government program would make this a lot trickier, which is why it's good that it's private charity.

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[–] 3004250? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Shock and amaze, unemployed people desperate for money like employment that pays them money.

Can we get around to accepting that there's far more people than there are jobs yet?

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[–] WickedVocalist ago  (edited ago)

Smart, Canada.

The US take on this is 'But they need meds and therapy, they can't work, they are unfit!'..

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[–] guinness2 ago  (edited ago)

Most of them are drug addicts and alcoholics, so yeah, they are being paid to commit suicide.

If the homeless were given $100 per day for also removing the corpses of homeless people who overdosed or died of alcoholism then they'd "solve" the problem much sooner.

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[–] WickedVocalist 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Well in the US it is said that something like 20% of the people currently employed have been homeless AND unemployed or out of work at some point in their lifetime.

Meaning out of 1 out of 5 odds, you might say crap like that at work to 5 people, and 1 of them knows you aren't immune. The big winning question is do you even have the temerity to get up if you fall, or would you fall and sit around and never bother to try again?

Then if you did get up, someone with your attitude might knock you out while you're already down.

At that point, I suggest there is about a 33% chance that you wake up someday and your wordlview will change, but then again, you might stay asleep at the wheel and screw yourself later anyway, never realizing that you are the lucky exception of people who never had to go hungry or sleep rough, and that you aren't even thankful for being that lucky either.

Oh by the way, if you want sources go google it yourself because I am not on your payroll and I don't do anything for free.

But then again, you're immune, right?

That won't ever happen for you, will it?

Maybe someone who takes offense to your abject privilege and narrow, bigoted disgusting hopeless worldview who is disabled, or a refugee, a ex homeless vet who got hired in your workplace, or some other person who has risen above adversity and is despised for it by you and your like will sue you out of your job and be paid to watch you do whatever they did that you diss all day.

You're nothing but a run of the mill bully, throwing stones and making sure only the young and naive or rich and elite ever get a chance in your world of haves and have nots, of black and white stereotypes and prejudice.

You'd be shocked if you ever had to experience 2 days sleeping rough - because you'd either sell out to a life of crime or you'd change your narrow mind realizing how much 2 days of being homeless can make a very normal person seem crazy, filthy, and untouchable nearly overnight.

A person could be reduced to the corner for things like losing their job, for things like leaving a cheating spouse, for things like being divorced or being laid off involuntarily, for being ill or even just for being disliked.

It doesn't wash to use the cruel stereotypes and I don't doubt you've labeled me crazy already, but it doesn't make you right or qualified to judge me does it?

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[–] SelfReferenceParadox ago 

The peg is relevent for once! I feel special.