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[–] Tecktonik 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

But I thought Chicago's problems were due to all the, you know, those people, those black people.

Voat makes it so hard to keep track of all the different ideologies. If we could just combine all of the pro-gun narratives with all of the pro-racism narratives that would be more helpful.

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[–] arrggg [S] ago 

FTFY -> Paying attention to facts Voat makes it so hard to keep track of Self-Righteously-Assume all the different ideologies.

Your comment is the most racist comment here. All your assumptions have made you look like an ass.

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[–] Tecktonik ago 

LOL I trolled you.

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[–] Coolidges_Ghost 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Mod deleted the other thread that was in /v/ news for some reason.

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[–] arrggg [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

One of my posts got deleted there today too. They do that regularly in that sub to posts they disagree with.

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[–] QuestionEverything 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

$15 EVERY year? Forever?

Under that setup, you're really just renting your gun..

Completely Unconstitutional.

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[–] youareivan 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

after seeing this post i remembered a graphic i'd seen online showing where the chicago police department had traced where a bunch of guns they seized came from. it's pretty interesting and shows the problem as much more complicated than most people think it is.

where 50,000 guns recovered in chicago came from

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[–] arrggg [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Interesting map. Its crazy that there were 50 thousand guns taken by police, and the linked article says there are only 7500 legal registered owners. In a city of 2.7million. No wonder its a warzone.

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[–] Pawn 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

We need less gun regulation. Often these shooters go out and kill the unarmed since they can't retaliate. Arm more people, and the risk to the shooter increases once they're found to be hostile. Manhunt.

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[–] Cacciaguida 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

and if they go on a spree they can be stopped in their tracks before too many get shot.

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[–] PopeBiscuit 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I need a liberal to explain this to me. It's almost like people are getting guns regardless of the law. I don't get it.

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[–] brother_tempus 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Regulations and taxation are just alternate forms of prohibition which can create a black market depending of the severity of such, the size of legitate demand , and lastly tie size ( in dollars ) of the market

Prohibition does not work and so logically neither does regulation and taxation

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[–] cli-che-guevara ago 

Your first statement is right. Severity of taxation is very important on whether a parallel marketplace develops.

But your conclusion is logically fallacious due to it's over simplification. Your first statement shows there is a gradient of severity, but your conclusion is a rule that ignores your own assertion of a vector.

Prohibition does not work if there is a market place willing to risk the punishment for operation. Someone will be willing to make money off of unlawfully supplying a restricted good or supplying a highly taxed item below the taxed value and keeping the difference. Alcohol prohibition through Constitutional regulation is a great example.

Moderate taxation, where the risks of operating a black market don't outweigh the rewards, is still a partial prohibitional taxation. These cases go against your simplified rule. Regulation and taxation can be used to change trends in usage of a good or service as long as they are implemented in a way to not incentivize the creation of a second, parallel market. A good example is tobacco use. Regulation of advertisement and slowly increasing costs due to taxation have effectively shrunk the legal marketplace domestically.

That being said, I think forcing gun owners to license their firearms is just as unconstitutional as voter ID laws. In both cases the government is adding a cost restriction on a Constitutionally given right.

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[–] Antichamp 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

We should look into the English and Australian gun bans - Hillary Clinton

When are they going to learn that shit helps no one.

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[–] jeegte12 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

She's not stupid. She knows the truth as well as you or I. You know who doesn't? The people she wants to like her.

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