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[–] flimflamedthezimzam ago  (edited ago)

At what point is it just better to plagiarize the far north? "Canada" "The United States" on all of their documents.
Ctrl+F replace, done.

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[–] MaxDragon 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

There is greater profit in poor healthcare than good healthcare. You help guarantee return business.

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[–] CatNamedJava 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

How dare you look at the demand side of this economic issue. /s

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[–] BoiseNTheHood 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Literally every other government has fully socialized healthcare and does a better job than we do. How do you possibly justify that?

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[–] wwwhistler 1 point 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

that is because insurance companies skim off billions. why do you think we have universal health care coverage instead of universal health care?

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[–] TerriChris [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

...And medical staff earn excellent salaries with life time employment. Never being unemployed means we need to graduate more medical staff - like we did with lawyers.

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[–] sumguy 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Er, wish this were true... my wife has a 6 year medical degree (Pharmacy) and pay has been doing nothing but Decreasing in the 10 years since she graduated, job opportunities shrinking, work environments getting worse. It's bad enough that she's looking at going back to school to get into a more promising career. Meanwhile the stress is giving her ulcers, chronic headaches, sleep issues, and more. Nothing like the constant threat of being sued into oblivion if you make a mistake while WAY overworked.

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[–] bayesianqueer 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's actually not a financially wise move for today's medical students (unless you are the rare student whose parents are wealthy enough to foot the bill).

The average cost of 4 years of public medical school is about $225k, private is about $300k. Add undergrad debt to that and total debt leaving medical school is often >300k. Assuming forbearance during residency and even aggressive payment of the debt in 20 years, at current student loan interest rates, it's over a million dollars.

Now, the average primary care physician makes about $215k annually and doesn't even start making that until they are at least 29 years old (assuming the went directly through undergrad and med school) it's not that great a deal.

If you are interested in making money (and you're reasonably science/math literate, computer science or engineering is a way better gig. You graduate at 22 with a third the debt of medical students, and you start making decent money in your early 20s.

However the cost doesn't drive people away from medical school, but it does drive them away from primary care. The average pay for primary care is $215k, but average pay for non-primary care physicians is just shy of $400k. And if you are graduating with what ultimately will be a million dollars degree, making double the money as a specialist (and having a better professional lifestyle), is incredibility tempting.

So its not the case that we have a doctor shortage, but we do have a primary care shortage. And the way to solve that is make it a financially viable option for talented students to pursue primary care by loan forgiveness programs if students enter and stay in primary care.