[–] intiraymi 0 points 21 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago
Quinn and Martland learned from a young Afghan boy and his mother, through an Afghan interpreter, that the boy had been tied to a post at the home of Afghan local police commander Abdul Rahman and raped repeatedly for up to two weeks...“After the child rapist laughed it off and referenced that it was only a boy, Captain Quinn picked him up and threw him,” Martland writes. Martland then proceeded to “body slam him multiple times,” kick him in the rib cage, and put his foot on his neck. “I continued to body slam him and throw him for fifty meters until he was outside the camp,” he writes.
This is the best part of the article.
[–] jeegte12 0 points 17 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago (edited ago)
that was one of the most satisfying things i've ever read.
While I understand that a military lawyer can say that I was legally wrong, we felt a moral obligation to act.
you're goddamn fucking right. i fully believe in due process, but only because it helps lead you to the truth.
[–] Oknatora 6 points 0 points 6 points (+6|-6) ago
Downvoat away ladies and gents, but as a Veteran of the USMC, he deserves to be discharged and I support the Army's decision on this one.
The moment Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, or Flyboys choose what command they want to obey, that is the day we no longer have a military. What happened to the boy and mother is awful, but it's a political issue between nations and not a white knight scenario where someone attacks someone in a cause they support because there is no line on what is right and wrong and if everyone chose to fight for what they believed in, we'd all be dead.
People need to look at the bigger picture here.
[–] Gake_The_Cake 0 points 10 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago
There isn't a point in having a military if what we protect is exactly everything we're against.
I could understand your point of view if it weren't for the fact that he was, in the first place, ordered not to report it. Also, I think you're forgetting something very important here.
It was his duty as a soldier of the United States Military to disobey that order. If he would have obeyed it then he would be directly disobeying a far higher order: his oath to his country.
[–] AssaultMonkey 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
As a veteran of the US Navy, orders to ignore abuses and illegal acts are unlawful and should not be followed. However, he still illegally assaulted a man, and should face consequences for that. The chain of command failed to properly address the rape issues and THAT it's the real harm to our military.
If our military disintegrates it will be because the upper echelons failed us and left the enlisted no choice but to disobey orders.
Summary: unlawful orders to permit sexual abuse should not be followed, but assault is still illegal.
[–] ThePieAssassin 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I think the bigger picture here is being a human being. Something like this, while it has political fallout, is acceptable to me.
[–] BitchoftheBunch 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
I would fucking quit. Would not be too proud to wear the uniform after that debacle
all they want now are psychopaths without morals.
[–] Kaizervonmaanen 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
That is what the US army always have wanted. You can not have morals AND be in the US army, when do they ever fight for anything moral? They fight for money and power.
[–] Kaizervonmaanen 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
The child rapists are the best allies that America has in Afghanistan. They feared for their lives during the Taliban and most of them fled the country, so it was the main group of Afghans that America could put in power and at the same time know they would continue fighting the Taliban. If they started punishing the homosexual child rapists then Taliban would be back in power because there would be nobody else with the same hate of the Taliban available.
America is literally an enforcer of child rape. Americans are subhumans with no morals.
[–] Kaizervonmaanen ago
Well, child rape is the price America must pay to have a puppet government in Afghanistan. Noone else have anything to win by getting rid of the Taliban.
[–] Robert_Lan 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I'm sorry for being confused here, but where does it say that they disobeyed an order? I've re-read this a few times now and the only thing I see is he states his feelings on what would happen if he reported it. No where does it talk about an order being given beside the gag order from the court which is far after the fact.
Not saying that what the Afghan police did wasn't wrong.
It's just that I see the comments here talking about lawful and unlawful orders when I can't seem to find anything about the two soldiers being order not to report something like this. Nor it is said that the reason for the discharge was because they disobeyed a lawful order.
I'm just trying to find where everyone is pulling this information from.
[–] SeeYouOnMyStretcher 0 points 15 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago
The story of the systematic abuse is sickening. It's stayed with me. The brave, often discharged soldiers that fought against the grain of this systematic child abuse deserve a whole lot more praise than anyone is giving them. How about a football stadium standing ovation for soldiers that stand for a universal moral principle rather than for ones that simply went along and followed orders blindly?