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[–] l-emmerdeur 2 points 39 points (+41|-2) ago 

not all facets of all cultures are deserving of acceptance.

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[–] weezkitty 4 points 16 points (+20|-4) ago 

Don't tell the extreme left that

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[–] l-emmerdeur 11 points -3 points (+8|-11) ago 

Traditionally, authoritarian/libertarian are traits viewed on a scale that is separate from the left/right dichotomy.

I am what most would call an 'extreme leftist', and I know the culture in question is a shitpile and deserves no respect.

So, great job not understanding what you're talking about.

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[–] TheDude2 1 point 11 points (+12|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Anyone that self identifies as a lefist, rightist, or any other -ist is already extreme. People need to start looking at each situation without worrying what their leaders believe.

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[–] scumshine 5 points 5 points (+10|-5) ago 

Western Europe used to be a land of conquerors. Now it is a land of effeminate cuckolds.

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[–] whitewomenarewhores ago 

Accepting culture means tolerating parts of foreign cultures that do not clash with your own. Why Eurcuckpe places a higher value on foreign culture wholesale, no one capable of critical thinking and logic can understand.

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[–] greycloud ago 

you are correct, i don't accept other culture's right to step on the rights of people in different countries. keep your laws in your own country. the hague convention is a international agreement, your country doesn't have to accept it, but it can't benefit from it at the same time as refusing to accept other nations right to the same damn thing.

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[–] iswallow 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Apparantly it's not a new law. It's just that since there are coming a lot of refugees, and we know that last year 34 child brides came to the Netherlands, we should be expecting a lot more child brides coming to our country in the following weeks/months/years. This prospect has reopened the discussion on the law.

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[–] 2619652? 4 points 7 points (+11|-4) ago 

That is called pedophilia!

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[–] spookybm ago 

"Chronophilia"

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[–] turtlesarepureevil 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It actually depends on the age/biological maturity of the younger individual in question. Pedophilia is typically limited to pre-pubescent children.

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[–] dildonkers ago 

Pedophilia - bad unless Muslims do it.

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[–] AlphaWookie ago 

This is called Islam.

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[–] bleatingnonsense 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

Well if Dutch law allows the child brides to divorce, maybe its a good thing. It could actually free them.

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[–] tpdplsio 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I think you're right but divorce sounds like something a child bride could get honor killed over.

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[–] bleatingnonsense 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Its much harder to make an honor killing outside of an Islamic ruled country. And those brides definitely are at risk of being killed at any moment for almost any reason right now. At least they would have the law on their side in the Netherlands.

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[–] 2623405? ago 

Not if you give them safe passage and change their name and identity.

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[–] HopeStillFlies 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Recognize the marriage so that people are open about their shit, enabling dialogue so that the child has the power to divorce in order to get legal protections (such as police protection, restraining orders, the right to sue for allowance) to separate by recognizing their legal right to separate.

This way you're FAR FAR less likely to have some asshole keeping their child spouse locked in a basement away from the world somewhere.

This may actually be better.

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[–] zippo 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

You know marriage means more than sex, yes?

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[–] SegFault 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Jesus fucking Christ in a gangbang, why?

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[–] poodog 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Dutch lawmakers are obviously all pedo's

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[–] MeatPopsicle 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Interesting. My half-sister got married at 16. Which... I'm not going to get into how awesome of an idea that wasn't (but hey, they've been married for like 10 years now so I guess it wasn't as awful as some...), but she was no child bride. It's curious to me that their marriage, performed 100% legally in the USA, wouldn't be considered legitimate.

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[–] thijser 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

In fact the US can go just as far in these things as many muslim countries, the minimal marigable age in say Massachusetts is 12 with parental consent. The law in the Netherlands is that if you got married in another country then you will still be married in the Netherlands no matter what. This makes sense as otherwise many mariages from around the world could no longer be valid (dutch law requires both to be 18 unless parental consent and pregancy in which case 16).

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[–] tpdplsio 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I wonder how many 12 year-olds have been married in Massachusetts in the last century? Plus in many Muslim countries girls get married at like 8 to guys that are 35 or older. The closest thing to that in the US is probably FLDS communities but they aren't exactly legal.

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

This is what struck me as overboard: a great deal(most?) developed countries allow marriage before 18, with parental consent. Unless the Netherlands absolutely refuses to marry minors, I don't see much of a reason to refuse to recognize marriages with partners under 16(which seems to be a common minimum).

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[–] novictim 1 point 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Society must NOT accept these barbarian practices. It is not just that the child is a victim. It is not just that the parents and family have deviant ideas of decency. It is that these deviant beliefs and practices WILL LIKELY NOT STOP just because these people have moved to the West.

When MILLIONS of people with the same bad ideas arrive on your doorstep, they self isolate and segregate into their cultural groups so that THEIR culture can be preserved.

This means that any socializing effect of the larger society changing immigrant beliefs or behaviors is defeated.

Female Genital Mutilation is a great example. Immigrants come to the West and yet continue to practice this disgusting evil without any sense of wrong, only a sense that their practice must be kept secret.

What is happening in Europe with the acceptance of mass migration is certain to defeat any notion of assimilation.

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[–] SSanf_1 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

That is why truancy laws must be enforced and immigrant women become educated about their legal rights and what support may be available to them.

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[–] novictim ago  (edited ago)

"immigrant women become educated about their legal rights " Absolutely!

That is correct! Our responsibility to our guests is to share the rules with them. Their responsibility is to follow these rules or leave.

On an individual, person by person basis, these cultural-immigrant groups hold a powerful weapon over the heads of each group member. Ostracism and threats of violence are BOTH powerful means of enforcing compliance even then the practice being enforced is deemed illegal by the adopted society.

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