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[–] 2606974? 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

So when religion and science can agree that spewing poison into a closed environment is detrimental, maybe we should stop.

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[–] Kaizervonmaanen 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

But politics does not agree with religion and science. And it is politics that decides what should be done.

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[–] Kurplow 4 points 2 points (+6|-4) ago 

This is a very clever and concise piece. There is one reason to deny and oppose climate science today: greed. Bush is the epitome of a corporate candidate.

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[–] Moonbat 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

There's an opposing point of view to this, and it isn't climate change denial. You should stop and consider what you just said - that "greed" is behind climate-change denial. Without agreeing or disagreeing with either political stance, I simply want to point out that you injected politics into the conversation.

I'm thoroughly convinced that climate change is happening and is man-made, so I'm not disagreeing with you about that per se. But I also know that this is a scientific fact which plays into the hands of anti-capitalism types, who are against capitalism for ideological reasons which have nothing to do with the environment. It's for that reason I'm a little more reluctant to take at face value much of the "climate catastrophe" hysteria that's pumped out by that crowd on a regular basis.

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[–] Kurplow 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You make a fair point, that anti-capitalists might use this to serve their own goals. Global capitalism contributes significantly to carbon emissions, being the argument.

However, doubting science based on that concern is to likewise insert politics into the conversation.

I'm not sure I was wrong to insert politics into the conversation when discussing a presidential candidate's views on science. Are we really expected to think his views are not politically motivated?

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[–] ShampocalypseWOW ago 

Bush is the epitome of a corporate candidate.

I dunno... Hilldog gives him a run for him money.

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[–] donotreply ago  (edited ago)

I do believe that "my" preacher should preach... about salvation and eternal lasting something or another.

NOT about other stuff... same with actors or politicians... heck politicians should wander off into the desert.

Climate Change is happening... it will always happen... happened before man was around and will happen after man was around.

BTW if you think the Pope is so great about climate change... what happened 5000 years or so ago when there was NO world or anything for that "matter"? Isn't that the way the faithful believe that GOD made the world not so long ago?