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Yep. But I think making a ten year old into a passing trains kid is child abuse.
I would generally agree, especially when it comes to permanent changes, its best to err on the side of caution. You can't go back after all.
However, there are some generally accepted exceptions.
Babies with ambiguous genitalia are generally left alone (as long as no medical threat is posed) until they begin to identify with one gender or the other before reassignment surgery / hormone therapy is begun. Though they generally like to intervene before puberty if necessary so the treatments will take better.
This is done because of cases like David Reimer and others where decisions made at birth ended up being wrong.
You could also just have a kid who has unfailingly identified or behaved as the other gender since they could interact with their surroundings. In this case, it is possible to delay puberty until they are old enough to make the call for themselves, or whatever they do.
Some cases could also involve a child who has a dangerously negative mental state attached to their body dysmorphia, though I personally would call this more culturally based than biological and certainly the most controversial instance of early intervention
You could also just have male child so feminine or a female child so masculine that they can pass without medical intervention.
Admittedly, those are all pretty rare occurrences (except maybe the last one) of an already rare condition and could likely be handled just fine on a case by case basis by the school, community, w/e.
Edit: All that being said, I, in general, am not a supporter of full reassignment in its current state, though I recognize the right for adults to make decisions regarding their own body. I couldn't imagine trading a functioning sex organ for a surgical reproduction of another.
I think in part the negative mental symptoms associated with being transgender are cultural as transgenders, third genders, etc have existed without such mental dissonance in other societies throughout history.
I agree on the case by case nature of these issues. You bring up some important but very rare exceptions to what should be a general rule. There is no denying that those things happen but it's a bit like using rape/incest/life of the mother when talking about abortion. Those cases make up a Tiny part of the overall number. It's more useful to focus on the common issues.
[–] LazarusLong ago (edited ago)
I would generally agree, especially when it comes to permanent changes, its best to err on the side of caution. You can't go back after all.
However, there are some generally accepted exceptions.
Babies with ambiguous genitalia are generally left alone (as long as no medical threat is posed) until they begin to identify with one gender or the other before reassignment surgery / hormone therapy is begun. Though they generally like to intervene before puberty if necessary so the treatments will take better.
This is done because of cases like David Reimer and others where decisions made at birth ended up being wrong.
You could also just have a kid who has unfailingly identified or behaved as the other gender since they could interact with their surroundings. In this case, it is possible to delay puberty until they are old enough to make the call for themselves, or whatever they do.
Some cases could also involve a child who has a dangerously negative mental state attached to their body dysmorphia, though I personally would call this more culturally based than biological and certainly the most controversial instance of early intervention
You could also just have male child so feminine or a female child so masculine that they can pass without medical intervention.
Admittedly, those are all pretty rare occurrences (except maybe the last one) of an already rare condition and could likely be handled just fine on a case by case basis by the school, community, w/e.
Edit: All that being said, I, in general, am not a supporter of full reassignment in its current state, though I recognize the right for adults to make decisions regarding their own body. I couldn't imagine trading a functioning sex organ for a surgical reproduction of another.
I think in part the negative mental symptoms associated with being transgender are cultural as transgenders, third genders, etc have existed without such mental dissonance in other societies throughout history.
[–] voat-ist ago
I agree on the case by case nature of these issues. You bring up some important but very rare exceptions to what should be a general rule. There is no denying that those things happen but it's a bit like using rape/incest/life of the mother when talking about abortion. Those cases make up a Tiny part of the overall number. It's more useful to focus on the common issues.