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[–] sniper98g 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

If they can calculate that, they should indicate it on the shows on Netflix. That way when you are trying a new show you will have a "give it till at least here" point.

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[–] ninjai 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Exactly. I remember watching misfits for the first time. I didn't really like it at all until episode 4 or 5. After that I really really enjoyed the slow.

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[–] sniper98g 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I've had a similar experience with books as well. The first time I started reading the Dresden Files, I though book one was kind of stupid, put it down and didn't come back to it for a while. Later on I went back and decided to give it another try, I thought it was OK and read on a bit. Once I hit book three, I was hooked. I binge read right though book 12 in the series (the latest one at the time) in about two weeks.

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[–] barset ago 

The Wire is the same way. Most I've talked to who lost interest never made it more than three or four episodes in which you generally need to the 5th or 6th episodes to really get a feel for the characters.

Then there's shows like Arrow where you spend almost half the first season not giving a fuck for the pay off to really start hitting in the last half to third of the season and just solid after that mostly.

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[–] hectavex 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Cool idea. It's what you usually have to tell friends when pitching a show to them anyway, especially when they come back a day later and say they watched the first episode or two but it was kinda meh. "No I promise dude, you gotta watch like 5 episodes before it gets real good."

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[–] Genr8r ago 

That would change the math though right? Now more people watch Pinkman and proto-Heisenberg through two episodes and still figure out that bathtubs full of flesh dissolving acid aren't really their thing.

I still like the idea but I think it has its own Heisenberg uncertainty principle.

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[–] Doomking_Grimlock 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

As long as the shows are good, I don't mind. I came to Netflix for a few very good reasons. They are ten times cheaper than any cable provider, they produce quality shows of their own while maintaining a library of tons of other shows I've missed over the years, and I don't have to pay for a bunch of reality TV drek that I'd never watch in the first place.

Keep being awesome, Netflix. Don't fuck us, Bros.

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[–] SlappyHo 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Right, now if someone can provide live HD sports that doesn't lag like most streams, then there would be no reason for me to have cable at all. Those assholes at Directv know that I only want sports so they charge me out the ass and give me 300 shit tier channels just to give me the live sports I want.

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[–] CatInTheHat ago 

Its probably limited to Canada but CBC will stream hockey, maybe other sports but I have only watched hockey there. I watched most of the playoffs on their website last year, quality was decent and worked pretty well compared to other streaming sites I have tried.

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[–] Doomking_Grimlock ago 

Yeah, buddy, they've got you hook line and sinker, and you have my utmost sympathy for that. Personally, I don't go in for sports. I'll play them, but watching bores me. Guess I'm kinda lucky there.

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[–] barset ago  (edited ago)

Tried SlingTV? I want to give it a go, but it's still on time slots although it does have AMC options and CN as well. Their big hook is ESPN.

The problem I have is its like $25 a month so between it hulu, netflix, and prime I'm almost at the cost of a monthly cable sub but the advantage being the majority of the content is on my schedule and far more options than cable.

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[–] Maxcactus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I bailed out of Orange Is The New Black in season two. They didn't have anymore to say after that. The characters were cartoon like the plots devices were implausible..

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[–] CalicoDan 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Problem is though, if I watch a pilot of a show and it hooks me, I immediately turn it off and wait for my partner so we can enjoy it together.

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[–] drmoron 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Nice. Maybe they also know that I skip the intro of OITNB every time cause it's too damn long.

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[–] barset 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I will keep arguing that Fear the Walking Dead has the most perfect intro with a three to five second intro basically amounting to a title splash.

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[–] jeegte12 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

agents of shield has that beat, albeit barely. best intro ever

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[–] twitch1982 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I've very interested in how they figured this out. They say that people were hooked after 2-3 episodes, and watched the rest of the series, but no one was hooked after the pilot. But how would they know the difference? If I watched 3 episodes, and the whole season, I also watched one episode, and the whole season.

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[–] SlappyHo 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I would guess that they can see how many people stopped watching at a certain point. So they can take the total number of people who watched the pilot but didn't continue vs the total number of people who watched the first few episodes and didn't continue. At some point that number is going to drop off significantly and that would be when the people go hooked. In other words, the episode that hooks people is when the number of people who stop watching the next episode drops off significantly.

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[–] twitch1982 ago 

I guess that makes sense, but the statement "no one got hooked at the pilot" Still seems odd. WEhen you're looking at populations rather than individuals, I don't know that you can make the argument that no one did something.

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[–] jeegte12 ago 

when they watched it, how far apart they watched it from the second/third episode, shit like that i'm guessing

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[–] greycloud ago 

digital crack, this stuff is a drug for the mind. the fact that television is legal and recreational drugs are not speaks a lot about the moral police problems in the country.

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[–] thealcoholist ago 

“However, in our research of more than 20 shows across 16 markets, we found that no one was ever hooked on the pilot.”

I'm sure they're just generalizing based on their data, but I can tell you that Bob's Burger, Archer, Red Dwarf, and IT Crowd hooked me from the pilot. They're saying that network TV's pilots are not useful, but it was for me for those shows.

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[–] Kafuka ago 

No they can't make that statement based on their data, and it would actually be a bit nonsensical if they could because being hooked means watching the whole show and that is per definition from the first episode. The speaker probably meant that no show had the pilot as the "hook episode" after which "at least 70% of viewers went on to watch the rest of the season".

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[–] thealcoholist ago 

Ok, that interpretation is fair. Perhaps if it says, using Breaking Bad as an example, "more than 70% of the people that watch this show, watched more than 2 episodes", would be clearer.

Before I read the article I thought that they'd look at how many episodes a user would watch occasionally until they start watching it regularly, like every day. That to me seems to indicate that a user is hooked in.

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