[–] BirdLawAttorney 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
What exactly are we meant to be? What is being free? Can we really be free?
I think we will be free in death, but I don't think that's what The Moody Blues were saying...
[–] Kromulent 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
This is an interesting question, something I chew on a lot.
Consider how it would be to live under an oppressive regime, and one day, when you've finally had enough, you decide to resist. You can make a good argument that, at that very moment, you have become free. Your body is still constrained and your acts of resistance might fail, but your soul, your mind, the part of you that chooses, is free.
Unless we awake to find ourselves in heaven, our choices are always constrained by reality. Our freedom does not depend on this. We can be free even if we are poor, and even if we are weak. Even if we are in jail.
I appreciate that this is an odd way to think of freedom, but if I think of it in any other way, then my freedom depends on things that are outside my control, and that does not seem correct either. If my freedom depends upon the proper alignment of the stars and the good will of the powerful, then it's not really freedom, it's just license.
I also feel pretty confident that freedom does not necessarily mean resistance. When you resist something, you are still defined by it. Freedom is more about focusing yourself on what you choose to focus on, and not necessarily focusing on the thing that happens to most be in your way.
[–] BirdLawAttorney 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
So I've been trying to think of a way to describe death as the ultimate freedom from everything, from even the reality of needing to make choices, but that's that's depressing as fuck, plus I think the song is talking about how to lead your life, not how to be free from our earthly constraints.
That's too much freedom, man.
I like your perspective on this, I do believe that how we think dictates a large part of our existence and it seems plausible to me that in that we can find freedom.
However, I'm not even sure I believe in free will, but that opens up a whole different discussion about causality and randomness.
[–] TreeOfLight [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Man, this spawned a great conversation. The first time I took shrooms was the first time I listened to this song. I understood that it was no coincidence. Here's my take. We are all one consciousness, God, the light, source, etc. So everything you do to someone, is ultimately done to yourself. This is the game. And this is why the entities you come across with DMT seem to be celebrating all the time. This realization sets you free, as you are awakened to the "game". This is my thinking currently, but like everything, my ideas are in a constant shift as I explore these three (four maybe) dimensions.
[–] BirdLawAttorney 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
I think I understand what you're saying and I think it's a beautiful concept, the interconnectivity of everything. Unity. I'll definitely allocate some time to ponder on this next time I'm trippin balls.
my ideas are in a constant shift
I definitely understand that. I do feel like life is a game. Some days however it feels like I'm totally alone and loosing every round I go in for. Other days it's great fun and I can see nobody else really knows how to play either.
So, we definitely have four dimensions; length, width, height and time. Time is really interesting because you only seem to be able to move through that one in one direction... String theory suggests something like 10 dimensions but that kind of math is beyond me.
Edit: So, I've been looking at 4D geometry and thinking about the higher dimensions that must contain our little XYZ.
Thanks for this trip down the rabbit hole @TreeOfLight; today a Moody Blues post changed the way I conceptualise the shape of our universe.
[–] Kromulent 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Lead me here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Ja4u8_RGQ
Sweet.
[–] TreeOfLight [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I love it. Moody Blues never get old. Try Every good boy deserves favour.
[–] Kromulent 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Listening now - most of it is new to me. Terrific stuff, thanks!