[–] didntsayeeeee ago
Is what they did actually illegal? Or does the law just say that the car must be able to pass such-and-such a test and they deserve a pat on the back for finding a loophole?
[–] FreeSpeachRocks [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
They knowingly sold 'off spec' cars as on spec, and coded the software to falsely indicate they were on spec. This is fraud. It is illegal in most places.
[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
The vehicles were well above emissions limits when they weren't in test mode - they weren't legal to sell as mass market vehicles, period. The real question is what this means for owners who have to take theirs in for their annual emissions test: does Billy Bob at the Jiffy Lube have to turn them in if they don't get the defeat device disabled? Is there even a mechanism to communicate that they have to be checked for that?
[–] lord_nougat ago
They won't have to worry about this for awhile. My car is 2 years old and I'm not due for a smog inspection for... oh, I don't even know, but I plan on having a new car by then. Do they even do emission inspections on diesels?
[–] grlldcheese 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Interesting point.
So was this whole thing destined to blow up after 1 year or did they think they could cheat the state emission tests as well?
[–] 2560615? 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Funny, was just reading this blurb from an article published last night:
http://www.wired.com/2015/09/vw-owners-arent-going-like-fixes-diesels/?mbid=nl_92315
Welp.
[–] 2560806? ago
Follow-up to my own post. This article says:
VW denied this one too, so my money's on Matthias Muller as CEO.
[–] MedicalMountainGoat 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I read that article you cited about 5 minutes prior to seeing the one from OP. Its pretty hilarious.