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[–] didntsayeeeee ago 

Is what they did actually illegal? Or does the law just say that the car must be able to pass such-and-such a test and they deserve a pat on the back for finding a loophole?

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

The vehicles were well above emissions limits when they weren't in test mode - they weren't legal to sell as mass market vehicles, period. The real question is what this means for owners who have to take theirs in for their annual emissions test: does Billy Bob at the Jiffy Lube have to turn them in if they don't get the defeat device disabled? Is there even a mechanism to communicate that they have to be checked for that?

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[–] lord_nougat ago 

They won't have to worry about this for awhile. My car is 2 years old and I'm not due for a smog inspection for... oh, I don't even know, but I plan on having a new car by then. Do they even do emission inspections on diesels?

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[–] grlldcheese 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Interesting point.

So was this whole thing destined to blow up after 1 year or did they think they could cheat the state emission tests as well?

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[–] FreeSpeachRocks [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They knowingly sold 'off spec' cars as on spec, and coded the software to falsely indicate they were on spec. This is fraud. It is illegal in most places.

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[–] johnny0 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly. Fraud. In big ol' letters. Capitals all the way.

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[–] 2560615? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Funny, was just reading this blurb from an article published last night:

“I personally am deeply sorry that we have broken the trust of our customers and the public,” CEO Dr. Martin Winterkorn said in a statement. The company has denied rumors he will resign.

http://www.wired.com/2015/09/vw-owners-arent-going-like-fixes-diesels/?mbid=nl_92315

Welp.

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[–] 2560806? ago 

Follow-up to my own post. This article says:

However, rumors earlier suggested he might be replaced by Porsche President and CEO Matthias Muller, Audi chief Rupert Stadler and VW brand head Herbert Diess, although Volkswagen has denied this.

VW denied this one too, so my money's on Matthias Muller as CEO.

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[–] MedicalMountainGoat 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I read that article you cited about 5 minutes prior to seeing the one from OP. Its pretty hilarious.