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[–] poppysquash [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Hence why I think we shouldn't have karma. Don't display it, even personally. We don't technically need visible points anyways.

It'd be different. I know that forums and such were it's time based have too much crap, but theres definitely space for a forum like website which organises by popularity. Most forums never used points and there pretty fine

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[–] toptum ago 

Ya that is one of the reasons I decided to stop. I thought back to when I first started using Reddit a couple years ago. What made it an awesome place was smart content and interesting people. Now I just go there to be entertained in the same manor as watching Jackass. I don't think I can put it any better than junk food for the brain. That's really what it feels like. It's like my brain grew, but with a whole bunch of useless shit.

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[–] FAQ ago 

Welcome and it's nice to meet you!

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[–] poppysquash [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I see you on many websites :P. Nice to meet you to

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[–] Seraphim ago 

Arguing with people over dumb things, navigating seemingly endless or sporadic moderation.

It's just a coincidence, but I was actually rambling to my girlfriend and her mother about reddit and the stupid engagements that I get involved in. They mentioned that it has seemed to take me away from a lot of my hobbies and things that I've wanted to do... I hadn't really realized that. And although it seems I've simply replaced reddit with voat, the conversations I've had here are more sparse (less users and content) and more stimulating. It's not as much of a sinkhole (for both my time and my brain) as reddit was.

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[–] poppysquash [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Absolutely, i realised if I added a large part of my reddit time, like 80% it was me just reading threads I didn't care or arguing with people. I could have invested that into something useful and have been a lot of a better person than I was. It also gave me an excuse to be lazy and think to myself "eh, everyone on reddit is like this, so I don't need to change". I'm slowly undoing everything

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[–] mintbanana 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Well the mid level shit on reddit is smart. The top level shit is dumb. And the bottom level shit it stupid as FUCK.

Meanwhile on voat its all mixed up. Its a different site for sure.

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[–] Rubashov 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I agree with most of what you say, but I have observed in the past that hoping a community remains "small" is not a healthy mindset. If we are achieving our aims of an open and free place of discussion, naturally the community is going to grow. A feeling of the 'old guard' being unwelcoming towards new users quickly spoils the conversation, and is it itself just another way of stifling free discussion, eventually resulting in the dreaded groupthink that has been a key factor in our move here.

What is of vital importance is to uphold all of the principles that make the community great in the first place, and welcome those who share our vision for the future.

Also hi guys, nice to find you all.

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[–] poppysquash [S] ago 

On a fundamental level I agree with you. Nothing is worse than trying to join a community you just found and would really like but being turned away because you werent a member for a long time.

However the basis of reddit and voat having karma means that once a community expands, you have the well documented phenomena of the community moving towards fluff content. In my mind, this is an even worse fate than what you described in your post. hence I'm a fan of keeping the community small or the barrier of entry high, only to filter out trolls. Yes I do realise it will also filter out the speed of lower-effort individuals but in my opinion that's okay as a trade off.

TLDR: removing karma would be a great experiment.

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[–] OldRedditGuy 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Hi @poppysquash

I think that if we keep the measures to keep decent voat (Mod's logs, limit upvoats an downvoats)... reddit could have been saved if reddit devs moved their ass and did this stuff like Voat Devs

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[–] CaffeineDrip 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

So true. Stuff like THIS really sets it apart from the low effort crapola on Reddit!

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