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[–] tylahedras ago 

I mean yea, sure, I agree. So I guess I'll show them by switching to... oh. FUCK.

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[–] Drenki 1 point 6 points (+7|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Tethering is essentially like doing all of your activity on your phone (browsing, downloading files, chat, voip calls, etc), but then immediately copying that information over to a computer via USB, wifi, bluetooth, etc.

Is there a cap on how much data you can copy from the phone to your computer over a USB cable? Show me where in their literature they make this absurd claim.

Differentiating tethering from regular phone use is just bullshit marketing from corporations trying to suck as much money as they can from you.

MBs doesn't even COST them anything. Not on their own at least. ISPs charge each other peering fees. You send me data at this rate at this price, I send you data at this rate for this price. Those fees are determined by the 95th percentile of traffic. Traffic is a rate, like 10mpbs or 100mpbs

Let's say T-Mobile had an arrangement with a peer (the ISP they connect to in order for their subscribers traffic to reach the rest of the internet) at 95th percentile of 100mbps (yes, unrealistically low, this is just an example). Traffic could flow at 95mbps and they would never hit an overage. As long as their customers pay their bills, there's no problem. If total traffic was at 5mbps, they'd make a pretty good profit. Obviously they want that case.

So how do they address the problem? Well, they just keep that link running at 95mbps. Subscribers would be locked into a certain transfer rate (95mbps / total number of active subscribers).

Problem solved, no overages, T-Mobile makes money, subscribers never hit a data cap. Everyone is happy. Well, maybe things feel slow sometimes, but only if the ISP had shitty infrastructure.

But companies are greedy. They want to screw you over as hard as they can. So what do they do?

Like I said, ISPs like T-Mobile, and the companies they peer to, negotiate prices based on link speeds (mbps).

But T-Mobile and other customer-facing ISPs (AT&T, Comcast, &c) charge customers by amount of data.

If they charged each customer based off link speed, all of this shit would go away.

What's even worse is that with peering agreements, if company A sends 100mbps of traffice to company B and company B sends the same RATE of traffic back, then they don't charge each other anything.

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[–] MagicHamsta ago  (edited ago)

Agreed. What's the point of "4g blazin fast omgbbq" speeds if I can only use that speed for less than a day in the entire month & get charged for "overages"?

I don't see my gas labeled as "unlimited 500 mph".

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[–] Nak 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What's the over/under on length of time until the first legal case against T-Mobile for false advertising?

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[–] TopShelfPrivilege ago 

http://i.imgur.com/Z08Tocx.jpg

Please feel free to point out where you're being misled.

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[–] seth_storm 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

How Comcastic of you to defend their limits.

So data isn't data according to them if it isn't on the right interface. No wonder they wanted to plow people off the old (pre-SC) plans like unlimited t-zones that had no limit.

As for the fine print excuse, what about those on older plans?

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[–] Catsaber ago 

OK, so let me get this straight. If I connected my smartphone to my laptop, and used the smartphone to download a 1 GB file, and then transferred it to the PC over a USB cable, that would count against a 21 GB limit. But if I downloaded the file directly on the PC instead using the same connection, that would count against a different 7 GB limit, even though the same amount of data is being transferred in the same way across the same network?

I can't wrap my head around this. How could it possibly matter which device is using the bandwidth?

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[–] seth_storm ago 

Marketing.

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[–] Areyouawhoreornot 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Fucking false advertising is what it is.

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[–] LusciousFox 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Could you encrypt your connection to hide the fact that you're tethering? I'm assuming they know you're tethering through analysis of your traffic.

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[–] seth_storm 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Sometimes it's your device that tells on you as well.

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[–] hwood 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Stealing is the wrong word to use.

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[–] seth_storm 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Legere should return his stolen copies of Sprint's business strategy first.

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