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[–] LusciousFox 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Could you encrypt your connection to hide the fact that you're tethering? I'm assuming they know you're tethering through analysis of your traffic.

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[–] seth_storm 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Sometimes it's your device that tells on you as well.

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[–] hwood 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Stealing is the wrong word to use.

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[–] Areyouawhoreornot 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Fucking false advertising is what it is.

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[–] mr337 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

Man that tethering data must go through special pipes or some thing.

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[–] Tb0n3 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah. It goes through the cpu pipes and out the wifi pipes.

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[–] MagicHamsta ago 

But those pipes are filled with cats & dank memes. That must be why they need more monies. /s.

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[–] Nak 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What's the over/under on length of time until the first legal case against T-Mobile for false advertising?

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[–] TopShelfPrivilege ago 

http://i.imgur.com/Z08Tocx.jpg

Please feel free to point out where you're being misled.

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[–] seth_storm 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

How Comcastic of you to defend their limits.

So data isn't data according to them if it isn't on the right interface. No wonder they wanted to plow people off the old (pre-SC) plans like unlimited t-zones that had no limit.

As for the fine print excuse, what about those on older plans?

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[–] Drenki 1 point 6 points (+7|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Tethering is essentially like doing all of your activity on your phone (browsing, downloading files, chat, voip calls, etc), but then immediately copying that information over to a computer via USB, wifi, bluetooth, etc.

Is there a cap on how much data you can copy from the phone to your computer over a USB cable? Show me where in their literature they make this absurd claim.

Differentiating tethering from regular phone use is just bullshit marketing from corporations trying to suck as much money as they can from you.

MBs doesn't even COST them anything. Not on their own at least. ISPs charge each other peering fees. You send me data at this rate at this price, I send you data at this rate for this price. Those fees are determined by the 95th percentile of traffic. Traffic is a rate, like 10mpbs or 100mpbs

Let's say T-Mobile had an arrangement with a peer (the ISP they connect to in order for their subscribers traffic to reach the rest of the internet) at 95th percentile of 100mbps (yes, unrealistically low, this is just an example). Traffic could flow at 95mbps and they would never hit an overage. As long as their customers pay their bills, there's no problem. If total traffic was at 5mbps, they'd make a pretty good profit. Obviously they want that case.

So how do they address the problem? Well, they just keep that link running at 95mbps. Subscribers would be locked into a certain transfer rate (95mbps / total number of active subscribers).

Problem solved, no overages, T-Mobile makes money, subscribers never hit a data cap. Everyone is happy. Well, maybe things feel slow sometimes, but only if the ISP had shitty infrastructure.

But companies are greedy. They want to screw you over as hard as they can. So what do they do?

Like I said, ISPs like T-Mobile, and the companies they peer to, negotiate prices based on link speeds (mbps).

But T-Mobile and other customer-facing ISPs (AT&T, Comcast, &c) charge customers by amount of data.

If they charged each customer based off link speed, all of this shit would go away.

What's even worse is that with peering agreements, if company A sends 100mbps of traffice to company B and company B sends the same RATE of traffic back, then they don't charge each other anything.

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[–] MagicHamsta ago  (edited ago)

Agreed. What's the point of "4g blazin fast omgbbq" speeds if I can only use that speed for less than a day in the entire month & get charged for "overages"?

I don't see my gas labeled as "unlimited 500 mph".

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBS2 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

Man, this sucks I was almost kind of starting to think t mobile might be the underdog carrier that sets everything right with the Internet the chosen one so to speak but it turns out it's just another of our dark lord and masters. Fuck damnit shit god damnit motherfucker and tits.

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[–] TopShelfPrivilege ago 

How does this make them evil? They never tried to hide anything. It's very clearly shown what you're allowed to do. They explicitly state unlimited ON SMARTPHONE data, and 7GB of tethering, which is what T-Mobile is complaining about.

http://i.imgur.com/Z08Tocx.jpg

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBS2 ago 

Evil is subjective I guess?

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[–] ShowMeYourKitties 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Hey now, don't bring tits into this. Tits are wonderful, superb sweaterpuppets and heavenly handpillows.

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBS2 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Right right, I may have taken things a bit too far.

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[–] MedicalMountainGoat 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Corporations are inherently evil by design. The entire point is to maximize profits at any cost.

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBS2 ago 

But isn't there supposed to be some prophecy about a good corporation springing up and bringing balance to the economy or something?

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[–] Drenki 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

A corporation is now, legally, a human without a soul or the ability to be sent to jail or imprisoned.

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[–] theoldguy 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Because that's what the stockholders who want instant gratification demand. A rational business would plan for the next 20 years, not 20 months, and show a bigger profit in the end.

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[–] waldojim42 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

Guess that makes me a thief, or an abusive customer. Don't care. Long time Verizon Wireless customer with unlimited data. And will continue to use my unlimited data until they force me out. I average about 30G/mo, peaking at about 350GB/mo. And frankly, I don't care. I paid for an unlimited plan, not whatever-they-feel-like.

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[–] TopShelfPrivilege 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

They're complaining about people abusing tethering. It says on the plan pages that ON SMARTPHONE data is unlimited, but tethering is not.

http://i.imgur.com/Z08Tocx.jpg

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[–] waldojim42 ago  (edited ago)

And it states right there in the article, that isn't true either. 21GB is the limit on smartphone. Which leads to the obvious questions: When isn't unlimited unlimited? And why the discrepancy?

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[–] Cobra_Kai 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

This sounds an awful lot like a limit.

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