[–] mondogecko 4 points -1 points 3 points (+3|-4) ago
Keep an open mind. Be compassionate and patient. Using crisis as the dominant metaphor frames this discussion from the get go. Try to be concious of envy and frustration born from income inequality. Is a refugee as scapegoat model constructive? Could there be antirefugee astroturfing from political factions that benefit from security expenditures (walls, guards, camera/alarm systems)? How does history remember similar examples of massive migration?
[–] Gerplunckamo 1 point 4 points 5 points (+5|-1) ago
How does history remember similar examples of massive migration?
Ask the Native Americans.
[–] mondogecko 3 points 0 points 3 points (+3|-3) ago (edited ago)
We both know this is a poor comparison. (I mean the native casualties at the hands of the european colonists characterize that period, and there isn't even a hint of that happening here.) Waves of immigration into the us from italians, germans, and irish more closely resemble the recent examples. Once they get their footing their children will be complaining about the next round of immigrants. The europeans are spooked because they're new to this volume. As somebody from the US, the world leader in immigration, everything will be ok. No, not sunshine and rainbows, just ok.
[–] Gerplunckamo 2 points 1 point 3 points (+3|-2) ago
The practice of decimation comes to mind. It was used during Roman times, in order to quell mutiny and unrest amongst the ranks of soldiers.
Literally meaning "to remove by ten", a century of soldiers would be divided into groups of ten, and nine soldiers would be tasked with killing the remaining soldier.
[–] Number1dududuNumber1 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago (edited ago)
Fortunately we do not have land borders in Australia and half the cunts they try to get here never see our land let alone set foot on it. They die at sea in their rickety old boats and I could not care fucking less. Labor let enough of the daft cunts through and finally we've had a couple of years of giving boats the kick. If we had a land border there would be cunts there beating the darkies back by hand.
[–] Number1dududuNumber1 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
At some point it's going to get to the stage of armed response either by the nation or by the people. Western civilisation did not build themselves to be the countries they are today to let a flood of retarded, lawless cunts with no sense of morality into their borders.
[–] massiveprivilege 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
Send them all to countries responsible for making those refugees. US lap dogs UK, France, Germany, Sweden... They are the ones that bombed and destabilized those countries, let them deal with the problem now.
[–] DarthPeaDoughBare 2 points 4 points 6 points (+6|-2) ago
Should we first stop destabilising countries where the migrants (why aren't we calling them what they are which is refugees?!) are coming from. Stop bombing them and stop providing support to regimes intent on repression!
[–] Number1dududuNumber1 5 points 3 points 8 points (+8|-5) ago (edited ago)
Because they aren't refugees. Some of these cunts have better clothing than me. The hundreds of young men at borders don't need protection, they need to pull their heads out of their ass and stick up for their countrymen. If they believe they're entitled to the rights afforded by western nations then why don't they think they have to fight for those same rights at home?
We fought two world wars to get where we are today, rebuilt after massive casualties and revolutionized industry in our own countries. Why should a bunch of backwards, knuckledragging hop hopers get to leech off of us now when they won't do an ounce of work to help themselves.
They should be given one of two choices:
Stay in your own country and fight for your rights, or;
Allow western countries to liberate your country and when that is done, do not come begging for your land back. If you beg for your land back we extradite all nationals of your country immediately back to where they came from and tell them to go build a nation.
Even if we do liberate a country, such as Africa, then give the land back to the darkies they will do nothing but return it to the state it is in today? Why? Because they are fucking stupid and know nothing other than violence. There's a reason their average IQ is low enough to be legally retarded, it's because they fucking are.
For those that can only comprehend one sentence at a time, the implication of these words is all countries within Africa, since they are all as meaningless and worthless as each other.
[–] Ebb 3 points -1 points 2 points (+2|-3) ago
Africa is not a country, but a continent.
[–] Ebb 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Before you tell somebody to stick up for their country, take into consideration that you've never had to do that in a life threatening situation (most likely. If I'm wrong correct me.). The number one priority of human instinct is self-preservation, so you can't ask an average person to put themselves in a situation in which they, without a doubt, will lose their families and their lives, likely in painful or unusual ways. You're not a hero. I'm not a hero. Hero's die.
[–] Gerplunckamo ago
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