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[–] faissaloo 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

No, you're right, there's nothing wrong with wanting your privacy

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[–] insert_name 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Well, think about it.

People who are on Voat now, for the large part, are anarchists to some extent. In other words, quick to move from mainstream things (i.e. Reddit), to newer, free-er, platforms (i.e. Voat).

So inevitably, a lot of people on Voat, which is a protest-y kind of website to Reddit, is going to have a lot of protest-y kind of people to suit.

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[–] Mongolera [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

That is true, and I figured that out too. It makes sense for innovators and early adapters to go to a new platform first, but I did not expect it to be this evident. I also wonder if voat will ever be able to grow out of this phase. The reddexodus seems to have stopped, not that I still follow those affairs, but the clearly laid out banning seems to be okay for most of the visitors and that's that. Do you think voat will eventually settle for a more moderate tone? Also considering the already fiercely brewing (mod) drama it has?

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[–] insert_name 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's simple. Most people on Reddit just post pictures of cats, and apparently everybody loves them, so the majority of people don't really experience the censorship and banning of Reddit.

I think Reddit will never digg-ify (become practically dead). It does what it's become to do, very very well - brighten up people's shitty lives with pictures of cute shit. Voat doesn't do this well, and maybe never will, so we can just hope more OC content comes really.

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[–] Orfion 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Cloud based solutions are great in theory until they are misused. As with privacy and rights people tend not to realize the gravity of the situation until it is too late. For instance, there is a post about someone being sued for his negative opinion on a certain group of persons. Your own opinion could be held against you when your group of friends turn you in to the theoretical thought police for anti-government thinking because of your paranoia. Cloud computing will become subscription based holding you hostage each month to pay your software bills to Microsoft, Adobe, etc. They want to model after cable companies and other subscriptions. No more using a computer and old OS/software for 10 years. If you could go back and stop the IRS from being created would you do it? That sort of monster is what people on here are trying to stop. The "people are generally benevolent and we have nothing to fear" crowd won't realize how wrong they are until it is too late to do anything about it. Unless social engineering and data aggregation keep us all fat, dumb and happy.

Tl;Dr You're not paranoid enough.

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[–] Voopin__Voopin ago 

Now we're talking. Love that TL;DR

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[–] Mongolera [S] ago 

Oh, I agree with that sentiment, and that's why I do imply strategies such as VPN's, educate myself on what parts of the software I use are sketchy and try to tell others about the dangers of carelessly using the internet, to name a few things. However, what you are saying is actually a well thought out piece while most of the posts/replies I am talking about are something in the lines of this (with my flavoring included to make a point):

Random dude from Czech used wireshark on W10, sends info to telemetry.windows.com Ok, so what was send? What settings were used? Is this test replicate? Windows 10 is the Orwellian future that awaits us! Um, ok, reasoning behind this? Why are people still so stupid to use Windows!? Really? do you have no ability to at least comprehend the different needs and requirements from users? Not every company will just use FOSS for different reasons, among which liability, training costs and laziness

So what I was going at was the tone of the 'debate'. Not the debate itself. I think it would be a great idea if there would be discussions on the usage, necessity and dangers of modern technology because it will have an impact on our social structures and understanding of ethics like nothing has before, but here it is mostly a circlejerk with a lot of namedropping and competitions on voicing an extreme (populist) opinion.

Oh, one reply that I read even went something like this:

Systemd is a known NSA backdoor, so do not use distro's that are dependent of it.

Whether true or false, it was yet another 'cool conspiracy' thing to shout out in my opinion. But anyway, enough of my jazz :P

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[–] HowAboutShutUp ago 

Broadly speaking I agree with much of what you're saying.