[–] Dadosaurus 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Yeah, year one sucks. I think by year 3 though, things are probably rounded out, and by the ol' grandparent age, I'm pretty sure people who had kids have happier retirements.
[–] Vvswiftvv17 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago (edited ago)
In fact, on average, the effect of a new baby on a person's life in the first year is devastatingly bad — worse than divorce, worse than unemployment and worse even than the death of a partner.
As a first year parent I have to categorically disagree. Also please see my previous v/AskVoat question on this topic, and that the majority of voaters agree with me.
[–] Vvswiftvv17 ago (edited ago)
No Stockholm syndrome here. What if....just maybe you were conditioned by advertisers to believe having children are bad?
Think about it, once you have a family your disposable income is gone. Sure you buy new things for the kids and their is a huge toy industry. However, once you have kids your shopping patterns change. Your money is spent on food, used clothes and toys, and household goods. Of course those items make money, but companies make more money off of single unattached people. Singles buy new cars, take expensive trips, invest in over prices pimped out homes, buy new iPhones every year, and overall but more luxury new goods. They also can commit to working longer hours and being more productive (making more money for these same companies).
Do you really believe it's an "awaking" of individuals that they suddenly no longer want families? Or could it be the first generation of adults that truly grew up around commercials 24/7 was indoctrinated by this thinking?
Why suddenly after centuries of societies believing family is something to be cherished, it now is spit on and mocked? Even enlightened civilizations before us still held family as valuable. Why the sudden change?
I believe its the difference between previous generations and our own: advertising.
Better to have a public scared of commitment and think parenting is a burden. Have them stay single, work hard for us, and spend more money on our products.
[–] BorgQueen 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
askvoat? come to /v/askborg a much better questions sub. And you get to be assimilated.
[–] Vvswiftvv17 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago
You realize my AskVoat question was posted long before 1/2 you little fuckers who caused all that drama even had a voat account right?
[–] SongAboutYourPost 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
not surprised about Divorce not being high. Half of the people getting divorced really WANT it to happen and a lot of times both parties within a divorce want it to happen. When it's over it's... freeing. I figure they're the happiest out of this group.
[–] uberdoober 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Oh puh-lease. If you make sure to have enough money and have plenty of friends and family to help you out when you get worn down it'll be fine. Most new parents fail to plan ahead or have an accidental pregnancy and from that perspective I could see things being overwhelming as they adjust to spending most of their time parenting instead of pursuing other things. If you have a friend with a 1 year old and you have a newborn you can get in on those sweet sweet hand me downs and save tons of money. We have SO many modern conveniences now compared to even 50 years ago! Disposable diapers, wireless audio and video baby monitors, super safe cribs and toys. Compared to humans of the past we are sitting pretty when it comes to rearin' some kiddos.