[–] RedditCEOEllenPao 0 points 25 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago
You're trying to apply logic to faith. Good fuckin' luck.
[–] SilentMaster [S] 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Well, no, I'm trying to apply the logic to government, but you're right, same uphill battle I guess. I want religion reigned in a bit. I have no problem with them running their shit anyway they want, but the unlimited power and tools freely given to them is bullshit. If they want to convince people that a sky zombie's blood cures cancer, it should be hard as fuck, as opposed to the current system.
[–] Gerplunckamo 5 points 4 points 9 points (+9|-5) ago
Because exploiting the weak for monetary gain isn't illegal, its the foundation of our modern nation.
[–] SilentMaster [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
So religion is the same as Coca Cola? That's the most depressing thing I've ever considered.
[–] Bioreactor ago
Well I'm not a religios man but I do enjoy me a good soda every few minutes noq
[–] 333 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Abraham religions are like Coca Cola and Pepsi. 1 trying to convience that they have better "product".
If it was for me, I would go directly to the Source by devaluing everything that has been taught. Everything.
Besides, why do you people need somebody to be the "medium", be it church, "mediums", "prohpets", "philosophers", lamas, politicians, authors, rabbis, scientist, celebrities, etc?
Why not go directly to the source and find things by yourself?
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[–] SilentMaster [S] 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
Great, a whole other can of worms. You're totally right though.
[–] SilentMaster [S] 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
I would argue that the people running Ponzi Schemes probably call that a collection too. But those are illegal. I know the vagueness is what allows them to do this, but my god, why are we protecting predators at all costs when innocent people are being destroyed?
[–] sparkybear 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Ponzi schemes promise a return on your investment. Churches that are money grabs like this are really frowned upon in most of the Christian world because they are seen for what they are. The Prosperity Gospel has no real basis in faith and is based around the idea that if you give money to the church and to God he will bless you more. You're not promising what a ponzi scheme promises, you're promising God will bless you more if you give him more.
[–] SilentMaster [S] 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
That's pretty easy. It's called common sense. A church should truly not be able to profit. That includes million dollar mansions, private jets, and every other ridiculous thing that televangelists have. If a church cannot use every cent it can ring out of its congregation, they will stop being predatory and maybe then they will just focus on their doctrine.
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[–] SilentMaster [S] 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Shit, I would vote for that in a heartbeat. Give me two minutes, I need to write my senator.
[–] klauskinski 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Advertising makes content cheaper or free. I personally would prefer to watch a few ads than to pay for or to have to break the law to view content.
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[–] SilentMaster [S] 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
See I'm fine with churches getting money, having money, and using money. They should be required to be honest about it in every situation.
"People, we need a new roof for our building. Please give generously."
"Brothers and sisters we are sending 100 men to Africa to preach God's love to those in need. We need airfare, please dig deep."
"God's chosen please look into your heart, and give us money for no good reason other than we want it. Yes of course we'll spend it, we just don't know on what yet."
[–] G4 1 point 7 points 8 points (+8|-1) ago
Freedom of speech, man.
[–] SilentMaster [S] 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
That's bullshit. If Glaxosmithkline cannot tell me their pills cure cancer and make my dick grow an inch a year why can a church say similar things? Lying to consumers is not free speech and that is exactly what churches are doing.
[–] G4 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Because you can die if you take pills without knowing what they are, the worst thing that happens here is you lose money.
[–] PM_YOUR_NAUGHTY_BITS 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
Can you prove to me religions are lying? (OK for some ridiculous claims you can but for most of them you can't, it's vague stuff beyond testability)
Religion also can't really do direct harm in the same way pills can. Indirect harm maybe if someone chooses their faith over medicine or something but not direct harm. Pills need to be rigorously tested and regulated or you get shit like the thalidomide scandal.
[–] zambeezy 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Because you can't prove that what the church says will happen doesn't actually happen. You can prove that the pill didn't cure your cancer or make your dick grow an inch per year. Churches may say "we can help you find salvation" and you wouldn't know if they actually were saved until they're dead, but then you can't speak to them because they're dead.