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[–] CttCJim 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Watch the John Oliver video again. It's legal because churches are allowed to take collection, and in order to avoid fights the laws about what counts as a church are EXTREMELY vague.

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[–] SilentMaster [S] 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I would argue that the people running Ponzi Schemes probably call that a collection too. But those are illegal. I know the vagueness is what allows them to do this, but my god, why are we protecting predators at all costs when innocent people are being destroyed?

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[–] sparkybear 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Ponzi schemes promise a return on your investment. Churches that are money grabs like this are really frowned upon in most of the Christian world because they are seen for what they are. The Prosperity Gospel has no real basis in faith and is based around the idea that if you give money to the church and to God he will bless you more. You're not promising what a ponzi scheme promises, you're promising God will bless you more if you give him more.

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[–] CttCJim ago 

Because it's a numbers game. It costs more (time, money, votes) to fight the religious right to limit the rights of churches than what you lose by allowing this shit to happen.

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[–] SilentMaster [S] 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

Great, a whole other can of worms. You're totally right though.

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[–] Gerplunckamo 5 points 4 points (+9|-5) ago 

Because exploiting the weak for monetary gain isn't illegal, its the foundation of our modern nation.

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[–] Relapse 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

Exploiting the weak is a fundamental aspect of nature

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[–] 333 ago 

Is it really? Or maybe it is because people are lazy and do not observe the world around them first to use laws for their benefit and thus then not being exploited over.

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[–] SilentMaster [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

So religion is the same as Coca Cola? That's the most depressing thing I've ever considered.

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[–] 333 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Abraham religions are like Coca Cola and Pepsi. 1 trying to convience that they have better "product".

If it was for me, I would go directly to the Source by devaluing everything that has been taught. Everything.

Besides, why do you people need somebody to be the "medium", be it church, "mediums", "prohpets", "philosophers", lamas, politicians, authors, rabbis, scientist, celebrities, etc?

Why not go directly to the source and find things by yourself?

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[–] Bioreactor ago 

Well I'm not a religios man but I do enjoy me a good soda every few minutes noq

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[–] RedditCEOEllenPao 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

You're trying to apply logic to faith. Good fuckin' luck.

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[–] obi-1 ago 

This is my first upvoat to reddit, a ceo, or Ellen pao. But I can't argue with that logic.

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[–] SilentMaster [S] 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Well, no, I'm trying to apply the logic to government, but you're right, same uphill battle I guess. I want religion reigned in a bit. I have no problem with them running their shit anyway they want, but the unlimited power and tools freely given to them is bullshit. If they want to convince people that a sky zombie's blood cures cancer, it should be hard as fuck, as opposed to the current system.

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[–] G4 1 point 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Freedom of speech, man.

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[–] SilentMaster [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

That's bullshit. If Glaxosmithkline cannot tell me their pills cure cancer and make my dick grow an inch a year why can a church say similar things? Lying to consumers is not free speech and that is exactly what churches are doing.

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[–] zambeezy 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Because you can't prove that what the church says will happen doesn't actually happen. You can prove that the pill didn't cure your cancer or make your dick grow an inch per year. Churches may say "we can help you find salvation" and you wouldn't know if they actually were saved until they're dead, but then you can't speak to them because they're dead.

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[–] PM_YOUR_NAUGHTY_BITS 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Can you prove to me religions are lying? (OK for some ridiculous claims you can but for most of them you can't, it's vague stuff beyond testability)

Religion also can't really do direct harm in the same way pills can. Indirect harm maybe if someone chooses their faith over medicine or something but not direct harm. Pills need to be rigorously tested and regulated or you get shit like the thalidomide scandal.

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[–] G4 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Because you can die if you take pills without knowing what they are, the worst thing that happens here is you lose money.