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[–] 12_Years_A_Toucan 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago 

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[–] indelible-sarcasm 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Social trends are hard to predict. The current state of reddit has a lot to do with a specific SJW mod culture that got a friendly reception with Reddit admins. Long before they hit reddit, the shape and character had formed at places like somethingawful.

Reddit can't function without mods (nor can voat), but moderation requires a ton of time for no particular reward. It's a form of power that doesn't really lead anywhere. Some are in it for the lulz, others are holy warriors. All of them are over involved, likely at price to their careers and personal lives. This doesn't seem like a stable situation, and it isn't likely to continue indefinitely.

Much like reddit itself, no one can figure out how to capitalize on owning moderation rights. Power has condensed with certain people, but it doesn't seem like it's worth much. Either the community moves around the power mods, or the technology changes and alters the tactics.

I suspect voat will break in new and exciting ways. The SJWs don't get in inside scoop here, so I don't think it'll thrive here. I don't think it'll last forever on reddit, either. Forum drama ceases to be profitable when advertisers get involved.

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[–] paulbain 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

TestingVoat4 wrote:

It's already happening.

Yes, I agree. The administrator @PutItOut has already made the reviled user /u/She the top moderator of subverse /v/AskVoat notwithstanding that /u/She is a self-avowed SJW. Furthermore, when awarding this position to /u/She, /u/PutItOut criticized the Voat community unfairly and rudely.

Screw that. I have been a Voat user for about six weeks, but, as of today, I am already looking for /v/VoatAlternatives.

@atko, where are you? Can you do nothing to save Voat?

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[–] WatDabney 1 point 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

I don't think there's much chance of that.

Voat does potentially face the same overarching threat - that of one particular group of angry and intolerant users dedicating themselves to gaining control over what is considered to be acceptable and unacceptable opinion here through a coordinated effort to attack and drive away anyone and everyone who expresses a view with which they don't agree - but, unlike Reddit, that group isn't SJWs. I think of them as SJWWs - the Social Justice Warrior Warriors. It seems an amusing bit of apparently unintentional irony that currently, those on Voat who are most likely to engage in essentially the same tactics used by the SJWs on Reddit are those most vocally opposed to what the SJWs did to Reddit. But what it really is, at heart, is just two different versions of the same basic dynamic - a group of angry and intolerant posters with a reactionary opposition to those who express a particular set of ideas and the belief that the expression of those ideas is so innately harmful that they're rightly justified in using whatever means might serve to proactively silence those who might express them. That is the threat - it doesn't matter in the least who's on which side.

The admins seem fully aware of that threat though, and appear to be prepared to deal with it no matter who's on which side.

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[–] SacerdoteBlasfemo 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The admins will never start deliberately handing them over to push that ideological agenda. There's no reason for them to do that at this point, as that's at the core of Reddit's criticism, and part of why people moved to Voat in the first place. Also, if that ever spontaneously happened somehow, as long as mods do a good job moderating the subs, and leave their personal agenda out of them, I personally don't care if they share a different ideology than mine.

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[–] Kleyno 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

@Atko and co won't actively encourage it, but neither will they take any steps to prevent it. If someone meets the criteria for taking over a sub, then most likely the application will be approved.

It is us, the Userbase, who hold all the real power here. Don't like a suberverse because it is Moderated by someone whose views you do not share, or because it has taken a sudden shift in a direction you do not like? Go to an alternative. Unsubscribe, stop providing content or comments.

If enough people undertake the same action, the subverse will die out and another will rise and take its place.

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[–] Disappointed [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Still say a community builds up a sub over a few years and someone comes in and trashes it, just because they like to see the world burn. I noticed something similar happened to r/punchables over at Reddit.

Edit: seems after they mocked the users they've made it private now.