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[–] Aspenforest ago 

Destruction leads to a very rough road, but it also breeds creation...

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[–] Vespera ago  (edited ago)

It simply depends where you look. Visiting a voat development / idea hub verse will reveal dramatically different content then the ideas that make it to the frontpage, which only do so via being submit to a broad verse that's doesn't specialize in that kind of discussion.

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[–] OllieQueen [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I understand. This is my alt account used specifically for trudging through popular subverses. However, on my other account, my subverses dropped in content specifically because the users no longer wished to be part of a stress inducing place (keep in mind my subverses are not stress inducing). I've spoken with them, and they just left voat in its entirety.

while that is them, and not me, I can't help but wonder...how much hate has permeated?

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[–] Vespera ago 

I feel like it all boils down to whether a person is a talker or doer.

In life, we all meet people who say they're going to do things who eventually back out of them. I don't think it's different here. A lot of people really do have the best intentions with contributing to conversations but are off-put by the complexity / effort that comes up.

If I were you I'd see it like this: people are leaving because actual work is involved

Also - what topic does that sub specialize in? you can be broad, I'm curious

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[–] BraneS2 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

The end.

Huh? You don't see the problem? Really??

Sure, censorship is an issue, but you cannot turn a blind eye to a very real problem. "The end"

too much ignorance

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[–] BraneS2 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

probably an incorrect premise. Many here are up for intelligent dialogue.

Isn't the problem being these adolescent kids, locked in their rooms, angry, cursing, and downvoating?

(that's why they had to change the downvoating rules).

Boastful Ignorance.

This is no place for them, but they cannot be censored as that is antithetical to the social media concept. I had proposed we at least keep track of them on a specific subverse, but it did not seem to get any traction.

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[–] cajunsunrise 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I don't know exactly what the solution is, but I think it happens because people are, well, less thoughtful.

I saw a post on FPH today (there was a FPH post that was in the to 5 most viewed posts on Voat today, so I checked it out even though I've blocked the subverse) that was a comic of stick figures about how a group of girls agreed with this one girl who wouldn't date a dude because he was shorter than her, but when a guy said to a girl that he wouldn't date her because she was fat, the girls were mad at him. The comic meant to show a double standard of objectification and how if one is acceptable, then both cases should be. But its premises, I think, were wrong. Just because one of those cases is socially acceptable, sortof, doesn't mean that it should be, or that it should make the case for FPH stronger. To me, it means they're both wrong. (I'm dating a dude that's shorter than me, so y'all can fuck off if you think I'm begin a hypocrite)

However, I can't say that on FPH, because the subverse would specifically BAN me from sympathizing with any "Fatty". So, it becomes a bit of a self-perpetuating circle, where hate happens, and it can't be intellectually discussed because you would get banned (ie: censored? oh wait...isn't that supposed to be something Voat is against?), and so more hate happens.

I don't really know how to stop the cycle when users will get banned for trying.

This idea can be extrapolated to other scenarios where users are condemned as SJW. Instead of actually disagreeing with SJW arguments in logical ways, being calleda SJW and downvoated is enough. And so the discussion stops and so does the flow of logic and ideas.

Anyways, probably an unpopular opinion, but there's my two cents.

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[–] OllieQueen [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Good job for vocalizing it, man or woman!

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[–] 1866342? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

So shines a good deed in a weary world. You want the real answer? Hate and evil has already won. Humanity is doomed. People are picking up on this subconsciously, or they've experienced some reality altering negativity that they will never escape. They want to destroy, and they have every reason to. Seeing beautiful, rich people live such effortless and carefree, easy lives makes anyone not directly in that position inexorably bitter. And those with the power to help, those in positions of authority or posterity are so quick to push others away in defense of their fragile and valuable asset, and cling to it mercilessly whether they're tyrants or saints. This is the fatal flaw of humanity. The paltry pecking order. Greed and selfishness lorded over anyone who dares question their divinity. Humanity truly at its most repugnant.

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[–] dart200 ago 

Evil can't win. It will only lead to it's own destruction.

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[–] OllieQueen [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

That was dark, but beautifully written.

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[–] OneZero 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Creation is far harder than destruction. It takes a team of people a lot of time to build a house but all it takes is one person a short while to burn it down.

I have noticed the same thing both in real life and on the internet. I think that at least in America it's because people are under more stress than before. People are working more hours, their commute to work is longer, and after inflation they are worse off financially than they were before. The corruption and incompetence in our law enforcement is more visible and not enough is being done about it.

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[–] OllieQueen [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I absolutely love this reply. It addresses socioeconomic reasons and the psychology surrounding it.

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[–] BaconBaconBacon ago  (edited ago)

No more, no less one way or the other. It's only what you are choosing to look at right now.

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[–] OllieQueen [S] ago 

True, or rather what appears in my feed. I suppose I do have to hunt for the good. Just a shame though.

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