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[–] deerhoof_fan 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

I live in Ohio, and the proposed deal is severely flawed. It would essentially create a billion dollar industry for 10 people and their friends, whose names and companies would be written into the state constitution. They would be the only people allowed to grow and sell marijuana in Ohio. I'm for the legalization of marijuana, but I will be voting "no" on this proposal.

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[–] Ellius 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

I'm also an Ohioan. The idea that a rent can be written into our constitution is terrifying to me.

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[–] Qberto 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Rent?

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[–] TH0UGHTP0LICE 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

They would be the only people allowed to grow and sell marijuana in Ohio.

You forgot to mention that the bill as it is written now means that only these 10 companies would be allowed to grow in perpetuity. IE they have a monopoly FOREVER

Can't believe someone thought that shit idea would fly

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[–] 052615 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

Why does it matter? Not trolling, seriously want a discussion. There is oligopoly on phone, cabl e, water, electricity , gas, everything I don't understand why this is such a hang up. It will stop peopel from getting arrested and having their lives ruined.

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[–] deerhoof_fan 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Just because oligarchies are widespread does not mean that we should allow the creation of more of them. We should be trying to eliminate them, not enshrining more of them into the state constitution.

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[–] Ellius 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Those are industries which require an enormous infrastructure investment. It would be detrimental to society to have purely competitive infrastructure companies building massive industrial projects on top of one another, so we allow a reasonable oligopoly with controls. Weed is in no way similar. It has no equivalent infrastructure needs and therefore no legitimate reason for curbing competition other than to privilege a bunch of greedy assholes through law.

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[–] MCVoat 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Hey there fellow Ohioan! Have you read the bill? Unfortunately I think it will pass because the bill is actually good for smokers. Growers will be screwed because there is no way for them to enter the industry. But if you read the bill the exact passage regarding legalization is as follows:

"It is lawful for persons 21 years of age or older to purchase, possess, transport, use and share with another person 21 years of age or older one ounce or less of marijuana or its equivalent in marijuana-infused products. "

Note the use of the word "share" in there. To me that means dealers and growers should still be able to operate as normal because it's impossible to prove if a bag was sold illegally or shared.

Also the bill sets up a committee in charge of auditing the regulated growers. They have the power to take away a grow license but not give one. And I think that the committee will be able to grant manufacturing licenses in the future without having to amend the constitution.

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[–] deerhoof_fan 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I would agree that it's good for smokers, but it's severely flawed for growers and distributors, which is unacceptable, especially since it's being written into the state constitution. This bill essentially creates a legal monopoly on the plant, disenfranchising anyone without the legal or monetary clout from entering what could be a very profitable and easily accessed peofession.

There should be venues for the average person to enter the industry, just like in other states that have legalized pot.

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[–] damnbiker 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Pfft! That's a stupid idea. If they legalize it, they should do it for the whole year, not just November.

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[–] 052615 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

What do you think fellow buckeyes? Will this pass? I think it will.

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[–] MCVoat 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I think it will because the average smoker doesn't care about where its coming from they just want to buy at the store.

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[–] Shoggoth ago  (edited ago)

I don't think it will. We're a pretty split state politically, though we tend to lean slightly more toward the conservative side and, as is the nature of conservatives, they tend to have more traditional values including the view that pot is bad. Add to that the fact that there are plenty of smokers that are saying they will vote against it due to the monopolistic nature of the bill.

Then there's the fact that even if it is passed, there will be an anti-monopoly issue on the ballot that if passed would nullify the proposed pot deal. Even people who vote yes to legalization may not realize that the monopoly issue would affect legalization and end up voting for the anti-monopoly bill. Regardless of whether legalization gets enough votes, I have little doubt that the anti-monopoly bill will receive more votes in support of it than the legalization bill receives.

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[–] FuttsMcButts ago 

What does that have anything to do with this? Yes government agencies and people in power can break laws that would otherwise imprison an average citizen for life. But that's what this is for; the average citizen.